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Offseason Review Series: Day 2 - The Washington Football Team

2020.07.16 18:26 stannsmash Offseason Review Series: Day 2 - The Washington Football Team

Washington is dead, long live Washington!

Division: NFC East

2019 Record: 3-13, 4th in NFC East

Coaching Changes

As the marketing says, this is a new RivERA. Almost the entire coaching staff has been replaced, except for the running back and special teams coaches, so let's all give a hand to Randy Jordan and Nate Kaczor for being survivors of the Rivera purge. Here are the highlights:

Head Coach: Ron Rivera replaces interim Bill Callahan

After an 0-5 start last season, and multiple season of mediocrity, Dan Snyder finally decided to pull the plug on Jay Gruden. Interim coach Bill Callahan did a...job. The question quickly turned to who would be the newest coach of the Washington Football Franchise. Would it be current OC and potential wünderkid Kevin O'Connell? Would they somehow steal away Mike Tomlin (remember this theory?) No. Enter in: Riverboat Ron.
Ironically, the only way that Washington was able to hire him was by defeating him: in week 13 of the 2019 season, Adrian Peterson and Derrius Guice stomped through Rivera's defense to the tune of 248 yards on the ground. That was enough to seal his fate with owner David Tepper, who was vocal through the season about the panthers status of mediocrity.
While one can reflect on Rivera's tenure as mediocrity, I'd argue it is anything but. As 2-time Head Coach of the Year, Rivera lead the Panthers to 3 1st place finishes in the NFC South, including a historic 15-1 2015 season where the Panthers made it to the Super Bowl behind MVP Cam Newton. Rivera is the winningest coach in Panthers history, with an overall record of 76-63-1. However, he was not Tepper's choice, and for that as a fan I owe Tepper one.
While I would not fault Jay Gruden for all of the Redskins issues the past 5 1/2 years, he seemed destined to stay at most mediocre, never even reaching the highs Rivera has seen. Key Gruden personnel such as Kirk Cousins, Jordan Reed, Chris Thompson, Josh Norman, Josh Doctson, and more are long gone. Rivera has a brand new cast to work with, and I am excited to see it.
Rivera is a proven head coach with a long and public track record. He is known for being a big believer in a strong player-oriented team culture, and god knows this team needs some major culture help, especially in the front office. Looking at you, Mr. Snyder. GRADE: A

Offensive Coordinator: Scott Turner replaces Kevin O'Connell

Losing Kevin O'Connell to the Rams is disappointing, no way around it in my mind. Could the Rams get bitten in the rear and throw a green coordinator into the wind? Maybe. But out of all personnel we didn't keep, this one stung the most.
However, one must not dwell on the past too much. Enter in Scott Turner, son of Norv Turner. Turner comes over from Carolina where he was first the QB coach under his father, and then suddenly replaced his father once Rivera was fired. Some highlights of Turner include:
  • Being the Brown's receiver coach during Josh Gordon's monstrous 2013 season
  • Vikings QB coach during Teddy Bridgewater's best years
Yeah that's about it. He is young and hungry, and honestly, I am pretty happy with this choice as well. I have faith in him to develop Haskins, who is the future of the franchise as of now. Hopefully he does not fall out of favor as his father did with our favorite owner. GRADE: B+

Defensive Coordinator: Jack Del Rio replaces Greg Manusky

The Redskins defense in my opinion has been underwhelming in recent times, and in large part I blame Greg Manusky for this result. The Redskins defense last year ranked 27th overall, which any Washington fan will tell you is at best a slight shame and at worst a goddamn tragedy. Sure, our secondary was nowhere to be seen. Sure, we we're extremely injured a lot of the time.
But here's the worst part: our front 7 is actually really good. I mean come on: Jonathan Allen, Daron Payne, Matt Ioannidis, Ryan Kerrigan, Montez Sweat, and more should amount to one of the most potent QB rushing attacks of the year. However, the stats show that this is just not true. PFF listed us outside the top ten and in a more general sense the defense overall just seems too ooze mediocrity.
Enter in Jack Del Rio. This man has over 30 years of NFL experience, having multiple positions as both Head Coach and Defensive Coordinators in the past. While his head coaching career has not always been consistent, his defensive strengths are quite apparent. While Wade Phillips was responsible for the Super Bowl winning Broncos of 2015, we cannot forget that Del Rio groomed that defense for years prior, bringing them to the big game as well the year before. His earlier success in Baltimore and Carolina must also be mentioned, but my main point is this: Jack Del Rio is tiers above Manusky.
Del Rio and Rivera are on the same page, and switching to a 4-3 base defense with Del Rio should pay dividends to our defense, particularly our front seven. Look for a strong pass rush with Del Rio under control. GRADE: A

Quarterbacks Coach: Ken Zampese replaces Tim Rattay

Zampese formerly worked for the Greatest Show on Turf helping Kurt Warner, Isaac Bruce, and Torry Holt achieve offensive supremacy over the league. He worked for 12 years in Cincinnati, developing both Carson Palmer and Andy Dalton. In addition, he helped to develop Baker his rookie year under literal the dumpster fire of a head coaching regime Hue Jackson had in 2018. After seeing many of Haskins sexy throws to McLaurin, Gandy-Golden and Co. on Instagram, I feel some safety in the QB department for once. GRADE: A-

Head Athletic Trainer: Ryan Vermillion replaces Larry Hess

If there's one thing that reminds me of a Washington Football season, its injuries. While Washington was not the only injured team, it definitely felt like one of the worst last year. At the end of the day, the blame falls on random injury luck, proper practice, and the athletic training staff. Larry Hess had been employed by Washington for 17 years, so this move may be seen as a long time coming, especially concerning some of the particularly bad injuries of recent years.
Vermillion has rep with Rivera, as he is the former head trainer for the Panthers. While the Panthers have had some injury troubles of there own as of recently, I am still hopeful that Vermillion and his staff can help the situation over here. GRADE: B

Free Agency

Players lost/cut
Player Position New team
Chris Thompson RB Jaguars
Colt McCoy QB Giants
Case Keenum QB Browns
Ereck Flowers OG Dolphins
Josh Norman CB Bills
Trent Williams OT 49ers
Montae Nicholson CB UFA
Jordan Reed TE UFA
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB UFA
Wendell Smallwood RB UFA
Tony Bergstrom OL UFA
Donald Penn OT UFA
Vernon Davis TE Retired
Key Losses:
  • Ereck Flowers: Flowers had been written off as a bust. His tenure in New York and Jacksonville were both at best mediocre, and at worst disgusting. He gave up tons of pressures, and questions about his devotion to the team were at play. However, Washington was able to reignite Flowers by transitioning him from a tackle to a guard. In this new role, he only allowed two sacks while starting all 16 games. In the end, he was able to get the best pay-day back home in Miami, and for that I cannot hold any ill-will.
  • Josh Norman: 5 years. $51.1 million guaranteed. $75 million total. Honestly, I believed in Josh Norman when we first signed him. Coming off an All-Pro year on a stacked 2015 Panthers roster, Norman was proud to declare himself the best corner in the whole league. If you'd ask Norman today, he may still very well agree with that assessment. However, both the film and numbers point to Norman as a one year wonder. He was never able to replicate his 2015 success here, and was barely able to follow receivers like Revis or play the zone like Sherman. I would consider this the worst Redskins free agent signing of the Jay Gruden regime, hands down bar none. At least Matt Jones gave us some 100 yard games. His best games for us were against Cody Kessler and Matt Barkley. I am glad this is over with.
  • Trent Williams: Oh Trent-y boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling. I am truly sad to see Mr. Williams suit up for another organization this fall, assuming there will be a football season. Trent has been one of, if not the best offensive lineman in the entire NFL since being drafted 4th overall in 2010. Even as poor football and asinine front office moves surrounded him, Trent remained grounded and supportive of Mr. Snyder's hope to win football games. However, this relationship quickly turned for the worse. I could write this whole page about the Trent Williams saga, so instead I shall link this.
Goodbye Silverback.
  • Jordan Reed: If you thought the Trent Williams saga hurt me, oh boy you are not ready for this. Jordan Reed was probably my favorite Washington player up until last season. I was at his first big game in 2013, and boy was it a sight to see. A 3rd round TE from Florida, Reed was a bright spot on a more distant 3-13 Washington Squad still hoping for RG3's knees to spring back to life. When Reed was on fire, he was on. In his heyday of 2015 and 2016, Reed was a top tier Pro-Bowl talent TE possessing the quickness of a WR with the strength and build of a TE. However, we all know how this story ends. In 2013, he only played 9 games due to concussions. In 2014, he hurt his hamstring twice throughout the season yet still played in 11 games. As stated earlier, 15' and 16' were the golden years, but his hamstring came back to derail almost his entire 2017 season. By last year, he had over 9 known concussions, and one can only assume his hamstring is not in good shape. This is a classic example of injuries destroying a once promising career. If you are ever in need of watching some electrifying tight end plays, check this out, I promise you will not regret it. Thank you Jordan!
Players signed
Player Position Old team Length Salary
Wes Schweitzer OG Falcons 3 years $13.5 mil, $4 mil guaranteed
Kendall Fuller CB Chiefs 4 years $40 mil, $23.5 mil guaranteed
Logan Thomas TE Lions 2 years $6.145 mil, $2.25 mil guaranteed
Sean Davis S Steelers 1 year $4 mil, $2 mil guaranteed
Kyle Allen QB Panthers 1 year $675k
Thomas Davis LB Chargers 1 year $3.5 mil, $1.75 mil guaranteed
J.D. McKissic RB Seahawks 2 year $3.27 mil, $1 mil guaranteed
Peyton Barber RB Buccaneers 2 year $3 mil, $600k guaranteed
Cornelius Lucas OT Bears 2 year $3.8 mil, $1 mil guaranteed
Richard Rogers TE Eagles 1 year $1 mil
Cody Latimer WR Giants 1 year $1 mil, $137.5k guaranteed
Kevin Pierre-Louis LB Bears 1 year $3 mil, $1.5 mil guaranteed
Jeremy Vujnovich OG Cardinals 1 year $825k
Ronald Darby CB Eagles 1 year $3 mil, $1 mil guaranteed
Mike Liedtke OG Buccaneers 1 year $750k
Key Additions:
  • Kendall Fuller: We are proud to welcome our 2016 3rd rounder and new Super Bowl Champion back to DC. Fuller has proven himself as a formidable slot cornerback, and should be a day 1 starter immediately. In fact, I could see us playing him on the outside if need be, as our secondary will become stretched dry rather quickly. If we can trade for Malik Jefferson, we could finally have all pieces of the Alex Smith trade back on the roster, including Alex Smith himself (hang in there buddy :( ).
  • Thomas Davis: A 3x Pro Bowler and bonafide former team leader of the Carolina Panthers, Thomas Davis is a welcome addition to our locker room. While at age 37 he may not start or play the most downs, his presence and familiarity with Rivera lends kindly to helping younger defensive players adjust and learn the new system.
  • Ronald Darby: Darby has never played a full 16 game season, and the past two seasons in particular seem to be injury ridden. However, our secondary is in need of a #2 to step up behind Fuller and if Moreau cannot make a leap then Darby better be a frog. This one year, prove-it deal will show whether or not Darby is ready to play with the big boys now.
Players resigned
Player Position Length Salary
Jon Bostic LB 2 year $5.1 mil, $2.25 mil guaranteed
Caleb Brantley DT 1 year $750k
Nate Orchard LB/DE 1 year $1 mil, $137.5k guaranteed
Aaron Colvin CB 1 year $1 mil, $137.5k guaranteed
Brandon Scherff OG 1 year $15.03 mil guaranteed (franchise tag)
Important Resigns:
  • Jon Bostic: The former 2nd rounder has bounced around the league since 2013, but with Reuben Foster tearing his ACL in training camp last year, Bostic was thrust into the starting LB slot. While far from perfect, Bostic played surprisingly well last year, recording 105 tackles, a sack, and a pick. It is unclear whether Bostic's ceiling is much higher then this going into year 8 of his career. The signing of Thomas Davis and an even better D-Line could help Bostic shine more as there is less pressure on him. Overall, a good team friendly extension on a starte1st off the bench quality player.
  • Brandon Scherff: Except for some penalty troubles, Scherff has been the most consistent offensive lineman this team has had in the past five years who is not upset at our current front office. While I am unsure if he was worthy of the Pro Bowl this past year, he is a stud OG and I am glad we have kept him his whole rookie deal. Hopefully a long-term can be worked out soon (though the deadline may have just past for franchise tagees), but keeping him on the franchise tag is far down the list of personnel issues.


Round Number Player Position School
1 2 Chase Young DE Ohio State
3 66 Antonio Gibson WRB Memphis
4 108 Saahdiq Charles OT LSU
4 142 Antonio Gandy-Golden WR Liberty
5 156 Keith Ismael C San Diego State
5 162 Khaleke Hudson LB Michigan
7 216 Kamren Curl S Arkansas
7 229 James Smith-Williams DE N.C. State
UDFA N/A Thaddeus Moss TE LSU
UDFA N/A Steven Montez QB Colorado
UDFA N/A Isaiah Wright WR Temple
UDFA N/A Johnathon Johnson WR Missouri
Grades and Thoughts:
  • Chase Young: How much more can be said about this guy? Young was known for months to be the consensus number one talent of the draft, and that has not changed in the past months. He is a forced to be reckoned with, and putting him alongside our other D-Lineman is a scary sight. The often made comparison is that of the Bosa brothers, who both came into the league and wrecked havoc upon entry. I see Young doing the same thing, having a minimum 10+ sack season. Fear the predator y'all. GRADE: A+
  • Antonio Gibson: Almost every analysis I have read about Gibson describes him in one of two ways: 1) A swiss-army knife 2) A football player. While I can't disagree with either, these both seem to be big buzzwords that cable football analysis loves to float around to tons and tons of players. No matter how you describe him, Gibson's highlight real speaks for itself. Most project him into a RB role in our system, and with Chris Thompson setting sail with Jay Gruden Gibson can not pick up the slack here. If he can provide support to Peterson and Guice, great! If he could improve our dismal receiving unit, even better! I like this pick, but can also see it failing if Rivera and Turner cannot utilize him correctly. GRADE: B+
  • Saahdiq Charles: Using a picks here on the O-Line was a smart move, as our bench before the draft was extremely thin. Charles has been a part of one of the best O-line's in the nation at LSU, helping Clyde Edwards-Helaire run over the entire goddamn SEC. While there was a distraction of off-field issues, i.e. his six game suspension in his junior year. My understanding is that this stemmed from maturity issues and possible failed drug tests. Without these concerns, Charles would not have fallen to this round. Even with the character issue, his on the field product is fantastic, and if there was any coach to help Charles stay the right path it would be Ron Rivera. GRADE: B
  • Antonio Gandy-Golden: My information on Gandy-Golden and Liberty football in general is extremely limited, but the little I have seen is fantastic. At 6'4, 223 lbs Gandy-Golden is prototypical size and his highlights at Liberty reflect that. He is able to utilize is wingspan to have a large catch radius and contend for aired out balls. In addition, while his 4.6 40 yard dash may be slightly underwhelming, his speed on tape is evident and can work. As the receiver competition is wide open, Gandy-Golden can easily become the number two receiver on this squad if he puts in the work. And according to social media, it appears he is trying. GRADE: A
  • Keith Ismael: Another offensive linemen, but I struggle to see Ismael in any role besides backup this year. Ismael was solid player for his three year college career, and learning behind our O-line can do him well to bring him up to NFL speed. I can see him sitting behind Rouiller most of the year, but there's always the potential for something more if he is a diamond in the rough. However, I would have liked for a TE selection here. GRADE: B
  • Kamren Curl: Curl seemed to be an intrenched starter for Arkansas, but it is hard to see what is exactly unique with his skill set. At 6'1, 206 lbs he has the body of a safety or even cornerback, which tracks as he played both positions in school. The most known information about him is that he was suspended for flirting with a cheerleader his sophomore season, but if that is his biggest character concern then I don't really care. In addition, he later cleared the confusion, noting that the cheerleader just wanted a photo with him. GRADE: C
  • James Smith-Williams: A depth signing for our defensive front, which is all good in my book. However, this deep dive into the man shows that Smith-Williams has the potential to be more then a name in DC. His injury history is very troubling, but if he can put that Big Bang Theory Sheldon brain of his to our team then I am all for it. 7th rounders are the time for risks, and Smith-Williams case is a unique one where the injuries are not as much a concern for me. GRADE: C+
If the only player we keep out of this draft in the next 5 years is Chase Young, it will still have been a success. However, I have a feeling that other players will make an impact here, particularly with Gibson or Gandy-Golden breaking out in a rushing or receiving competition. For Kyle Smith and Rivera's first draft, it could have gone a lot worse. The amount of BS spewed about us drafting Tua or trading down was EVERYWHERE online before the draft, so I am jus glad we didn't mess it up as bad as we could have. Overall, I'd rate this draft a B+, with the rating going higher if any of these other players break out as well.

Name Controversy

Look, both you and I know that this subject has been beaten to death, especially on this subreddit. So let us just establish the facts:
  • There has been ample push to change the name since the 1990s.
  • Dan Snyder said in 2013 that he would never change the name. "It's that simple. NEVER — you can use caps."
  • This month, Fedex, along with other major sponsors such as Nike and PepsiCo called on Snyder to change their name or face financial doom.
  • July 13, 2020 Snyder issues a press release stating the name and logo are both officially retired.
There are many more specifics and points of contention on this issue, and I think this WaPo graphic does a good job illustrating other key times that the name has been discussed or been a point of contention.
My thought? About damn time. Look, I understand that the name is offensive and have been all for changing it, but more importantly I just want us to focus on what ideally should be more pressing for this writeup: the players and the game. The politics of the name has been a distraction and disgrace to the proud men who have worn this city on their back for decades. Do not get me wrong: the actual name itself holds little meaning to me personally. However, I am younger than many fans of the team and understand the attachment some have had for their entire lives. Yet, I do not think we need to forget about Theismann, Baugh, Jurgensen, Doug Williams, Rypien, Riggins, the Hogs, and more just by retiring the name. I say, let this begin a new era in Washington football history where we can be remembered for playing a game we enjoy and love, not hurting others if we do not need to.
My personal preference for a new name as of now is Red Wolves. Maintaining the colors and HttR (Howl to the Red Wolves!) sounds nice, and the animal is theoretically indigenous to DC and the southeast US even as we may not see it commonly. If trademarks issues can settle, I believe we will hear the new name before the next season.

Sexual Harassment/Misconduct Issues

After finishing the Washington Post article today, I was left with a feeling of disgust and sadness, but not shock. Football has always been known as a "boy's club," and seeing women in positions of power in any NFL organization is not common. This is the reason why. While I do not know the situation of every front office, I would not be shocked if this is more common then one would suspect.
Now, do not get me wrong: this is disgusting and Snyder should be ashamed of himself. Letting this persist for over 20 years and clearly not giving any shits is despicable. I do not want to defend these actions in any manner. These men have done disgusting things, and the fact that Snyder has let them slide and persist for all this time is plain gross. This is a question about human decency and respect: do you respect your fellow person enough that you control what you say around them? That you think before you act? Clearly the Washington Football team has not cared about its female employees nearly enough. This is hurtful for everyone, male, female, non-binary, whatever. Please, just consider your fellow person when you are living your life. This is not hard.

Projected Lineup and Position Groups

QB1: Dwayne Haskins
QB2: Kyle Allen
This should be Dwayne Haskins year to fully realize himself as a starting quarterback in the NFL. While I love watching his sexy instagram workouts, I can only get so worked up before needing to see the real deal. Since being thrown into the fray last year, we saw Dwayne progress in his decision making, but keep improvements in accuracy, particularly throwing mechanics, should be a focus this year. Even with a...subpar supporting cast (more on that later), this should be Simba's year to break out, or at least show that he is worthy of his first round draft selection.
I don't expect Allen or even Alex Smith (if he has recovered enough, which I am doubtful of) to give Haskins a run for his money. While Rivera has never stated he is sold on Haskins, do not think any other QB will start this season (barring injury.) Washington is committed, at least for this year, to Dwayne Haskins.
RB1: Adrian Peterson/Derrius Guice
RB3: Antonio Gibson
It is really a toss-up here whether or not AD or Guice starts, but if history is cyclical then Peterson will get the nod soon enough. I really want Guice to do well, and when he has not been injured he has done fairly well. However, I have little hope that his knees keep holding up, especially considering how much we may need to rely on our run game this year.
Peterson is old, but has shown to be consistent enough when we have a semblance of an offensive line. Our run game is decent, definitely not the worst in the league, but could be close to it. I imagine Gibson may fulfill the role of a receiver back, catching out of the backfield or taking hand-offs. He is bigger than Chris Thompson, but elusive enough that I could see some similarity in usage, especially as a rookie.
TE1: Jeremy Sprinkle
TE2: Richard Rogers, Logan Thomas
TE3: Thaddeus Moss
Sprinkle gets the nod here as the number one due to his experience in DC, but as the new regime is in town this is really anyone's game. Stat-wise Rogers and Thomas are relatively consistent, and while Moss has the obvious name recognition he is not even a lock to make the current roster. Sprinkle has always been subpar as a pass catcher, decent as blocker and not much else. Hopefully someone here breaks out or a trade swings through, otherwise this is one of our worst position groups on the roster.
WR1: Terry McLaurin
WR2: Steven Sims Jr.
WR3: Antonio Gandy-Golden/Cody Latimer
WR4: Trey Quinn
"McLaurin and then everybody else" is the best way to sum up our receiving unit. Scary Terry is once again our biggest threat and should have just as good if not a better year than 2019 as Haskins' accuracy issues (hopefully) clear up. I Like Sims Jr. as a returner, but his results as a receiver have been inconsistent. Perhaps he could be used similarly to Antonio Gibson, as I see him getting end around hand offs having big success. Gandy-Golden looks promising, but small school talent can be hard to adapt to the NFL. Latimer is a solid depth signing, and I am very unsure if Trey Quinn is worth his roster spot. While I mentioned the Tight End group being poor, this group is equal in that regard. Hopefully our run game can carry once again.
LT: Geron Christian Sr.
LG: Wes Schweitzer
C: Chase Roullier
RG: Brandon Scherff
RT: Morgan Moses
Scherff is a bright spot on this mediocre group, but he has had some penalty troubles and the contract situation for him is still unclear as for the future. Geron Christian should hopefully start and have improved since last year, and Schweitzer seems to be a decent signing. I like Rouiller under center for now. Saahdiq Charles and Keith Ismael could both become starters, but I have a feeling Rivera will not want to throw them into the fire early on. Overall I'd categorize this group as "eh?" and hope that our RBs can find enough holes. Haskins has also been improving his mobile game so escapability could be a needed factor with this line.
4-3 Defense:
LDE1: Chase Young
LDT: Matt Ioannidis
RDT: Daron Payne
RDE: Montez Sweat
This is by far the best position group on the entire roster. Calling these four the only starters is somewhat a misnomer, as Rivera and Del Rio will be frequently subbing in and out many linemen. Kerrigan and Jon Allen should still have large roles, but these are my choices based on durability and past success. Chase Young should be a stud, and I have heard him having between 10-15 sacks this year. Ioannidis has been a 5th round gem for us, leading the team in sacks last year. Payne and Sweat are both young and have shown some success, and I am hopeful they can both remain at worst starter level linemen. If our line is not getting after QBs like crazy this year, some big questions will need to be raised.
WLB: Cole Holcomb, Josh Harvey-Clemons
MLB: Jon Bostic, Thomas Davis
SLB: Ryan Anderson
While not as impressive as the linemen, our LB core is still a solid group. Thomas Davis brings in some leadership to an otherwise young group. Ryan Anderson will finally be playing in his natural position as a 4-3 LB. Both Bostic and Holcomb were impressive last year, though I am hoping their coverage (particularly Holcomb's) could improve. Harvey-Clemons is good for our depth, and solid rotation player. Overall not a flashy group, but should get the job done with the pressure all being up front.
CB1: Kendall Fuller
CB2: Ronald Darby, Greg Stroman
CB3: Fabian Moreau, Jimmy Moreland
FS: Sean Davis
SS: Landon Collins
The only unquestionable starters here are Fuller and Collins, and even Collins has been looking down as of recent. My dark-horse candidate is Jimmy Moreland, who impressed in last years preseason before being hidden or unnoticeable during the regular season. Moreau is decent, and Sean Davis is as good as Montae Nicholson ever was (especially considering his legal issues.) The loss of Quinton Dunbar is not sad whatsoever, and while his play was above-average, his robbery skills are very poor. This is the biggest whole in the defense by far, and my guess is that our team will ride or die by this secondary. If the front 7 is doing what it can to apply pressure, there will be some slack here. However, do not be surprised if next years writeup has many different players here.
Special Teams:
K: Dustin Hopkins
P: Tress Way
KR: Steven Sims Jr.
PR: Steven Sims Jr.
I want Tress Way to have my children so that they will be blessed with his punting genes. After a couple years of flying under the radar, Way was finally recognized in 2019 with a Pro Bowl and Second-team All-Pro nod. I am upset that Brett Kern got the nod over him for First-team, but the recognition is still appreciated. Hopkins is decent, though he does have a tendency to miss some close kicks (cough vs. Bengals in London cough), but he has provided stability to kicking for years now. Sims emerged last year as our return man, and with him bringing us our first return touchdown since 2015, I'll let him stay. Perhaps Gibson will try returning as well, who knows.

Schedule Prediction

Home against the Eagles: Loss
3 out of the past 4 years Washington has lost its openers, with two of those loses being against the Eagles themselves. Be ready for growing pains with a new name, coaching staff, and supporting cast. This season is not gonna get any easier.
Away against the Cardinals: Loss
This game could be a close one, but the Cardinals seem to be on the up with Kyler and Kingsbury. There air raid will be too much for the DC secondary, especially playing in Arizona.
Away against the Browns: Win
It's the Browns for god sake. Josh Norman had a game winning pick a couple years back for us against them. Sure, their QB was Cody Kessler, but different year same stories. No more Freddie Kitchens, still the same Browns.
Home against the Ravens: Loss
It's the Ravens. Enough said.
Home against the Rams: Loss
McVay and Co. should have our number here. Even without Gurley the Rams passing attack should be enough to take us down. The real downfall of our team is the secondary, that should be a pattern to notice. I'd like to believe in a Haskins comeback win here, but who knows.
Away against the Giants: Loss
Going into the Meadowlands, I expect a game similar to the late OT thriller of last season, with the Daniel Jones reigning supreme again. Saquon will distract our defense enough that number one receiver... Sterling Shepard will bust us up. Clap man Garett gets us again.
Home against the Cowboys: Win
Come on now, it's the Cowboys. Dak is overpaid, blah blah blah. Coming back home and wanting to prove ourselves after a crippling loss last week, I think Simba can pull off a nice home win here.
Home against the Giants: Win
Revenge game of the 2019 QBs, and this time Haskins will stay on top. Expect a nice performance from McLaurin, and Chase Young destroying Mr. Jones.
Away against the Lions: Win
I'm praying that Chase Young is able to get after Stafford enough that he does not pull a come back against us here, but I expect this game to be close as well. Perhaps Okudah has a pick six, why not.
Home against the Bengals: Win
Haskins vs. Burrow. Burrow vs. Young. A bonafide 2019 tank-bowl matchup. I feel we have the upper hand here, but really this game should be a shit show. Should be juicy though.
Away against the Cowboys: Loss
Playing in Jerry World is ass, though I'll never forget Colt McCoy leading us to victory on Monday night. No way in hell we go 2-0 against the Cowboys, so mark this down as a loss.
Away against the Steelers: Loss
Big Ben is back and can run around in the pocket, meaning even with ample pressure his offense will do better than ours.
Away against the 49ers: Loss
It's the Niners, and they mean business. Last year's game was a 9-0 snoozefest for some reason, so I'm guessing this one will be 30-27 shootout. Should be fun to see a potential Trent Williams vs. Chase Young matchup.
Home against the Seahawks: Loss
Russell Wilson.
Home against the Panthers: Win
Rivera fights his old team and...wins?? Yep, even with Teddy B I feel our defense will keep us afloat. Shaq Thompson is scary, but I am not particularly afraid of Donte Jackson and Eli Apple... Haskins will now probably throw three picks.
Away against the Eagles: Win
Ending the season on a positive note, what?? Yes, this one may be a stretch. However, if the Eagles are in the number one spot, my guess is that they would rest their starters against ours. Then again, I have no clue who will win the East so your guess is as best as mine. At any rate, I am ready to 100 percent lockdown Wentz this game, maybe.
Final record: 7-9, miss the playoffs, 3rd in NFC East
In my book, this would be an OK first year for Rivera. Coming in with so many green players and an entirely new system can lend itself to mediocrity, but building off of this year is crucial in my book to finally escaping out of the limbo which Washington has played in since Snyder bought the team in 1999.
Draft wise, this should set us up for a pick between...12-15? A solid early/mid-first, probably drafting a receiver, tight end, or secondary player depending on who pans out this year.

Training Camp Battles to watch

  • Wide Receivers:
Like previously mentioned, it is unclear who will be receivers 2 and 3 behind McLaurin. Kelvin Harmon and Steven Sims Jr. emerged as early contenders, but as noted earlier Harmon tore his ACL. Latimer was ok last year on the Giants, but can he beat out Gandy-Golden or Sims Jr. at the top of the chart. I believe players such as Trey Quinn, Cam Sims, Johnathon Johnson and Isaiah Wright are all fighting for a roster space, so seeing them as starters is extremely unlikely. Predicted Winners: Antonio Gandy-Golden and Steven Sims Jr.
  • Tight Ends:
This whole roster spot is a toss up. I truly am hoping that Sprinkle gets a kick in the rear to elevate or somebody else steps up, as he was far from a special talent last year. His name makes sense, as he was only able to Sprinkle in a few catches from Haskins and Keenum throughout 2019. Both Richard Rogers and Logan Thomas aren't impressive, so the hope for fans is that Thad Moss or an unknown player such as Marcus Baugh is able to claim the spot. No matter who wins here, the position will be weak. Predicted Winner: Jeremy Sprinkle
  • Cornerback:
The battle here lies between all players not named Fuller or Darby. Known Redskins names such as Fabian Moreau, Greg Stroman, Jimmy Moreland, and Danny Johnson are all fighting to be the number 3 corner or remain on the roster in a bench role. I feel at most one of these players will be cut, but overall secondary job security should remain steady for 95 percent of Washington players. Predicted Winner: Fabian Moreau

Offensive and Defensive Schemes

One of the points I've read stressed about Scott Turner is his ability to fit the offense for the QB. As this will be his first full time OC job, it is unclear exactly what schemes he plans to run, but I assume it will be up to date with the fast and mobile trends of stat and data driven offenses today. Perhaps we shall see some similarities to his father, who utilized both Air Coryell and spread techniques in Carolina.
Defense: Base 4-3, 4-3 Under
As mentioned before, Del Rio and Rivera are shifting our defense from a 3-4 of the past to a 4-3. This should help our rush game significantly, with players such as Ryan Anderson and Chase Young being able to fit in the scheme quite naturally, For more in depth coverage, be sure to read this Hog's Haven post which will explain it more in depth.  
Thanks for reading! Let me know your thoughts down below. Agree, disagree? This was my first year writing, so I hope it was bearable to read!
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2020.04.05 01:08 kylepierce722 kyle

Basically My Life From 2018 Til Now But It Doesn’t Make Sense Probably Kyle Pierce
Part 1: Summer of 2018
Ok so, I honestly have no idea where to start this. Well, I think the best way to describe how I was feeling at this time was really shitty, but the light at the end of the tunnel was incredibly bright. Now, the reason why I started here, even though this happened about… 20 months ago? Something like that, who the hell is counting. Well, I started to get anti-social, like really bad. I would honestly just want to be alone somewhere rather than hang out with my middle school “friends”. I put friends in quotation marks because nowadays I consider most of them to be fucking assholes except for one or maybe two, or three kids (Parking G and Mo I miss you). Well, the last time I saw those people was June...22nd? 23rd? Whatever, of 2018, right when my social anxiety said “Allow me to introduce myself!”. They were hosting a final reunion party and I decided to go, only to do basically nothing. I felt like a pest, so I stopped following everyone and just went on my own. I felt sad, but yet again, they made me feel like that, so jokes on them: fuck y’all. After that, I didn't see most of them again, and I’m glad. At the end of this part, I’ll go on a massive fucking rant about who I think I need to talk with again, who I think should just ignore me and keep being them cause their lives are great, and the people who I think should kill- wait no, that’s a bit too far. Aha! The people who should go fuck themselves as well! Going into high school, I had no idea what sport I wanted to play in the fall. I already knew what I was doing in the winter (indoor track) and the spring (baseball). But fall? I could do any sport I wanted to (except soccer). Eventually, I thought football was not going to be fun despite the amount of clout I would get, so I did cross country. Now, I’m not lanky of any kind. Hell, I probably have bigger arms than some of my teammates’s legs. I was.. 5’7” and 166 lbs at my peak. Nothing could go wrong when it comes to dual meets! (Everything. Almost. Went. Wrong.) Now, apart from the practices, I really enjoyed the socialization. I even have some really close friends from it and I would never be their friend if not for the sport (yes I called cross country a sport, the fuck you gon’ do bout it?). Overall, I really enjoyed cross country practices over the summer, and I’ll talk about the actual season later on. My vacation to…. Uh…. to….. What the fuck ws it called again? Med Club? Yeah, Med Club, I think (it’s in Florida), was honestly a decent vacation for me. There was really not much to do, other than get free food, enjoy tropical smoothies, paddle boarding, kayaking, sailing, flying on a water-powered jet-pack, wakeboarding, and water skiing. Yeah, there was a lot to do actually. During this time, If felt confident about myself and tried to socialize with other kids my age. Unfortunately, MOST OF THEM ONLY SPOKE FRENCH. Are you fuckign serious?! I spent 9 YEARS learning Spanish only to come to a resort I thought was Spanish just to go ahead and fucking speak FRENCH? What’s the point of learning French unless you go to France OR go on a mission trip in a French speaking country?! Now thankfully, there were some bilingual people, and they were great, but it got really awkward when someone asked me if I spoke French. There were also people who were just from the area, and they were chill, but holy shit they knew a lot about the Parkland shooting. Hell they knew someone who got SHOT. I really don’t know how to end this paragraph except I broke my phone, was forced to use my mom’s for the rest of the trip, and went to the Marlins game. Good times! To finish the serious part of this I had a huge crush on a girl named- wait can I say her name or no? Whatever I’ll just call her, Kylie. Kylie is a girl that I was attracted to ever since we worked on two projects together and clicked. When i mean clicked, I mean like Bad Meets Evil chemistry type shit, or Lebron James and Dwayne Wade type shit, you get the idea. Both projects we got A+ on and that’s when I started to develop feelings. Apart from that she wasn’t really popular, but holy shit was she cute. I managed to get the guts to ask her out over text (shut the fuck up I had no other option) to a baseball game, and she said maybe. That, to me, was an automatic no. She said that she was busy the rest of the month and I haven’t talked to her since. Honestly, I want to send her a text just to see how she is doing, but by the looks of it, she’s doing great. Ok, now the last paragraph: me getting into a summary of my middle school classmates. Parking, G, and Mo, I hope y’all are doing great, I miss you (Not their real names lmao). Most of everyone else, I don’t really have an opinion on you anymore, hope life is treating you well. But to Pleb, Edd, and Annus, GO FUCK YOURSELVES. No seriously, eat shit and die, You guys made me feel like I'm worthless, ruined my reputation in Portsmouth, and killed my self esteem. Especially Annus. You can honestly go fuck youself so hard the dildo comes out of your mouth. Now, obviously, I don’t wish for that to happen, but you guys get the memo (These aren’t their real names). Also, I haven’t been back to Portsmouth in 18 months. I’ve only been to it if I was passing by to go somewhere else. So it’s safe to say I HATE Portsmouth (except for the girls, most of y’all are fine af). 
Part 2: School Year (in 2018) You want to know something weird? I was actually excited to go to a school where I only knew one person from cross country (the rest of them were acquaintances). I could basically be reborn as whoever I please. I could get rid of my old reputation and start a new one! So that’s exactly what I did! On orientation, I was basically as social as I’ve ever been. Talking to my xc teammates, talking to new people, the whole thing. There is one thing that I love myself for doing: I thanked myself for meeting most of the cultural people (aka people born outside of the USA). I met someone from India, Nepal, the Philippines, and even someone who lived in China for 10 years! This school is so diverse and that is why I come here! Now, the reason why I’m talking about this is because there was only ONE kid in my grade at middle school who was black. So you can tell I’m craving for diversity. To describe my high school, it's pretty simple: there is not a minority. There are an equal amount of whites, blacks, Hispanics/Latino/Latinas, and Asians. I have made friends with pretty much every single race. Lastly, I got introduced to Eminem, need I say more? Now, for the cross country season. Oh boy did I suck! Even though this was my first year, to say that I did terrible would be an understatement. My fastest time? It was a slow 28:00. Hell some people on my team had faster cooldowns! But, did this all matter? Not one fucking bit, the amoun tof support I got from my coaches and teammates was incredible. I really wouldn’t be the person I am today without a few. But the senior (at the time) who really picked me up was a kid named…. Rook. Yeah, Rook. Immediately he realized that I was new to the sport and would always have a positive attitude when I was around. Whether it would be after a good race or bad race, he always managed to be… less sad when I was around. The other people who really changed me was the coach and his son, who we’ll call Coach Ooey Gooey and Ooey Gooey Jr. (if you know, you know). Coach Ooey Gooey is probably one of my favorite coaches. He does not care how much I weigh or how fast I am. He still works me and wants what is best for me, even if it means leaving cross country (which I will never do, it keeps me in shape). After every meet, he always says I did a great job, even that one time where I cried after I did so bad after a meet. And Ooey Gooey Jr. was also there to pick me up. It was literally a second family. Wait, have I talked about Manhattan yet? Shit, I haven’t. Well this paragraph will be even longer. Manhattan was a time where I truly bonded with the team. We went out to dinners together, had a blast in the hotel rooms (except for sharing the couch bed), and just doing whatever at the meet. It is probably my favorite bonding moment of the whole season. Now, going back to what actually happened at school, nothing really happened. I didn’t have any crushes at the time because, well, I was new to everyone. Almost no one knew who I was, but what else can I say? I was expecting it. So homecoming to be real with ya, was lame. But at least it started a close bond between someone who I’ll call, Vanderbilt. This kid Vanderbilt and I are still bros and this social distancing thing is making me miss him. Back to sports since that was way more interesting. Remember how I said that I didn’t have a crush on anyone before homecoming? Well about a week later a girl who we’ll call… Mary, followed me on Instagram. I took one good look and thought “Holy shit, she’s really cute.” But yet again I’m still shy so I didn’t think much about it, until indoor track started. Indoor track season of 2018-2019 was one of the worst times I’ve had in sports. But for 2018, I just getting a feel for what it is like, along with realizing the sprinting coach does not give two flying fucks about his job. We would just run around alumni, barely went outside, and never practiced batons. The throwing coach was decent, but he really couldn’t spare any time, and left in the middle of the season. But could I blame him? Absolutely not. My school just did not care about the throwing part of track and field. They just milked the shit out of the good sprinters and distance team. But socially, indoor track was great. I didn’t realize it, but Mary and her two other friends, Holly and Zoe (once again, not their real names), did indoor track. That was the first time I actually had interaction with Mary and her friends, and I felt like it was going to be a long, but bearable season. I was always “encouraging” the three (mainly just telling them to keep up lmao) and in 2018 that was really it. Yet again, there wasn’t really much since we just knew each other. Other than school, out of school life was not really different. The only things I can think of were black belt testing, which was good, but I still just need to get one more belt before I can say “Sayonara”. I never really hung out with anyone because well, new environment, more time I need to adjust. I mean, I did see some of my old friends from middle school at a football game, but that was it. The best thing, however, is when I finally got a bunny, who I named BuddyPaws (I have no idea why, shut up).
Part 3: School Year 2019 (Literal Hell) I really don’t want to explain this part of my life. But yet again, I don’t want to just skip over a phase and just completely ignore it and focus on happy things, or just lie about it like China’s government. Yes I said it, come get me Xi. We all know you’re lying about how many cases of the Coronavirus are in China. But anyways, this part of my life was hell, but it wasn’t the worst. So there is some other time in my life that was so fucked up I hope I don’t have to explain it ever again to anyone, other than typing this. But I’ll just go from like 3 months to the other 3. January started off alright. I mean, I managed to get my first and maybe only medal in indoor track, and I barely got it, but nevertheless, I got it. This was also when I really started to get closer to Mary and her friends, and we joked more. But then, my “aunt” (she was just a close friend of my mom) passed away, and I had to go to the funeral. This was the first of so many deaths I witnessed. This was also when my family started to hate each other, especially my mom and dad (To this day, I still think they hate each other). THis was also when my brother started to feel.... How can I say this without sounding rude… off. My sister, who was at college at the time, hated it, and I really only had one companion: BuddyPaws. He kept me sane until he… died. HE FUCKING DIED FOR NO REASON. Now I am going to go on a huge fucking rant but I don’t care. BUDDYPAWS WAS LITERALLY MY SON. TO HAVE HIM DIE WHEN HE WAS 4 MONTHS OLD MADE ME WANT TO DIE. I hit rock fucking bottom after that. I never really talked to a single person after. I just cried and cried and, oh what would you know, cry! I felt so worthless that I just went into my school's weight room almost every day just to get his death off my mind. But then next thing you know, baseball was starting. I felt a little better now that I got a longer bat and started to hit well, but the death of BuddyPaws still hurts and it hurts to this day. Then, I ended up going to 3 funerals in almost 3 weeks. I even said to my mom I didn’t want to go to another one because I would yet again be too hurt. But yet again, the worst one came, which was my Grandma passing. It hit me hard but it didn’t at the same time because she did it to herself, never loved my dad, and the last time I saw her was in February of 2018. I never had that much sympathy for her. School-wise, I felt atrocious. Grades dropped, no motivation to do anything, and the whole thing. Luckily, I didn’t do any group projects, so that was a relief. But it still hit me hard. Indoor track ended in such horrendous fashion that yet again, I had no motivation. I’m keeping this short because I don't need to repeat myself: School was trash. The next few months were still garbage, but at least it wasn’t literal shit. April was just full of baseball and it was… alright. The bonding really wasn’t there and one fucking kid decided to fuck the team over y not showing up to games, but at least some kids were nice to me. When I mean nice, I mean like, really nice. Hell his parents decided to just let me join wherever they went one day, and I really appreciated that. The one kid I’m calling Vanderbilt was basically my bro. Also, in April, It was around this time where I accidentally said that I liked Mary, and the boys were supportive of me. However, at the semi-formal, I messed up, felt like she didn’t like me back, and ya boy went into a two week depression. I finally decided to tell her what the hell was going on and that I liked her, and I finally just reconnected with her. Oh yeah, and she had a boyfriend at the time so whoops (also that relationship didn’t last for long, they broke up before the school year ended and they started dating Mid May). During this time, after a 3 month mourning period, I was finally able to get a new rabbit. I picked him up on May 25, 2019, at around 1:30 pm. I named him Creamsicle. Now, you guys already know that, but he is what kept me sane for the next few months of my life, and I cherished him like my son. Academically, this last part of the school year turned out to be fine. I managed to get my grades back up, and got almost straight As (Mr. Sarcastic please just give me that extra .3 God Damnit). Finals were a huge success except Spanish. God Damnit Yellow, you should have been included more. But I didn’t dip below an 80 for the rest of those classes and life started to turn around. Around late May/early June (I think) an online friend of mine for 3 years, whose name is Jacob, added to the MLM chat. This is where I met some of the gamet people, like Jurg, Jordan, Jacob obviously, Matt, and Hamza. There were also a few others I would meet again such as Jack and Derek. Carter, I forgot if you were there so don’t get mad lmao. It holds probably my most favorite moment in that: the time when Jurg started a poem trend and almost everyone in the chat went off trying to see how many fucked up poems we can make. It ranged from simple ones like “Roses are red, violets are red, oh god oh fuck I’m bleeding uncontroablly.” To simple yet extremely fucked up ones like “Roses are red, 6 million wasn’t enough.” (Derek June 8th, 2019). Now obviously, Derek didn’t mean that but still, it was fucked up. Just like my humor. The MLM chat and the other chats were obviously my favorite.
Part 4: Summer 2019 (10th Circle of Hell) This is easily the most confusing time I have experienced so far. Online, I was pretty much at my peak. In real life? I swear to God I was depressed. No, I wasn’t suicidal, just depressed, that’s all. I was in so many chats that ended up disbanded that I don’t know everyone who was in it, I only know the main ones. I remember jurg decided to create a chat on his own, which held many of the MLM people but with a few new people, I don’t remember anything big happening, but then I was in Barton’s chat, where I met Jason, AJ, Maggie, Jillian, Vic, Vin (who hated me cause I was under the account of yankeeshate LMAO), Vinny, Troutman, Hillner, RSB (Hi Sammy), Max, and Lily. Now these were the people I only talked with, not everyone. There were a lot of shithsows, but it was not enough for me to just straight up leave. However, I got pissed a lot and sometimes just left. The online peak kicked in Late July- early August. I’ll never forget when the chat roasted the shit out of a guy named Inca who loved to fuck his dog. Then I think before that, there was a shitshow where most of the gamet people left. But my favorite thing was when I managed to get Zoe 2.0 (not the other Zoe obviously) to send me nudes. That is why I said that was my peak: all because some girl 1 year younger than me agreed to share explicit pictures of herself because I sent a fake dick pic. Yeah, that was fun. So now, we will get into my worst moments. This summer, except for traveling to Colorado, was easily my worst time of my life. I don’t think I’ve ever felt more depressed in my life. Basically, my family hated each other. So many arguments, so many breakdowns, and hatred. I never thought I would say it, but at the time, I hated almost everyone in my family. I was lowkey constantly trying to get a chat active because I wanted to talk. But that didn’t help. I thought about running away and I still do today. It also made me distance myself from most people except my xc teammates, my mom, and of course, Creamsicle. This was the worst summer of my life and I think I have PTSD from it, because now everytime my brother or dad comes home I expect yelling and bitching. Great job you fucking bitches!
Part 5: School Year 2019 (In Fall) Remember how I said that the summer of 2019 was my peak online but then my worst in real life? This is the total opposite at the start. I came into sophomore year feeling great about myself since I had a lot more friends and just felt more included. Hell I went to my first hoco pre-party and met a lot more people and got a lot more pictures than last year. Another thing I would like to point out is cross country. That was probably my favorite time. Instead of just single cars, we had vans, and for some reason I was in the girls van with my boy Jose (the friend I had since summer of 2018). It was a blast. I felt way more confident in my races. I honestly felt like I could do something in this sport. Coming into indoor track on a high, I realized what position I will be in Junior year. But in 2019, I just got a feel for the new coach, who is one of my favorite coaches of all time. Why? Because she gave me a chance. It is also when I started to get even closer with Mary, Zoe, and Holly. The freshmen were also great friends, and I call one of them my son because that is how I treat him. The best part? Even though our previous coach left, another coach, Coach Becker, decided to fill in the role and I had a blast. But then, The great divide happened in the chats. I forgot who it was between: Either Jason and James or Jason and Lily. It could have been both. I sided with James and Lily mainly because at the time, I was sick and tired of Jason. He constantly was being a bitch, I realized how much he used the n-word (sometimes intentionally and not for satire), and just had an ego bigger than Russia. But then in November, something really bad happened, and I distanced myself from everyone. That proved to be a huge mistake, and I asked Jacob to get me in a chat. Luckily, he found one, and I was in a chat with new people (Andrew, Brandon Sam, Luke, and Megan) and saw some familiar people (Derek, Hamza, and Jack). I have no regrets being in that chat and I’m still in it today. I love the chat and whoever is keeping up with the Depression Day Counter thank you lmao. Then, during this time, jurg asked if I would like to be in gamet. After a solid and hard 4.8 seconds of thinking I said yes, and I don’t regret it (even tho Vic kicked me for being inactive most of the time which was reasonable). But during the time in gamet, I actually felt safe and really liked being in there for the time being, so thank you. I never have any huge moments of 2019 in chats, but this is starting to get shorter and shorter every part so I’ll just add these words. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Epstein didn’t kill himself.
Part 6: School Year 2020, School Trip and iTs cOrOnA tImE I combined all of these parts because each and every one of them was way too short. Also nothing really happened in the chat other than just getting reinvited to gamet after whatever happened. For indoor track, I was on such a high, and then I was on such a low. I did so well in class meet and then I didn’t score during the JV state meet and I may or may not have cried. Shut up, I hate when I do bad. But the new coach just said that outdoor track may be what I want to do in the spring. This is now what I am debating over ever since she said it and I really have no idea what to do. I decided to put that very important question that may or may not change my life at this time and focused on the school trip. Now, before the school trip, I somehow managed to become friends with the foreign exchange student, C, before she left. Now please note that I have a huge crush on her and we were so excited to plan this thing out. We could only meet during one day, but fuck it, better than nothing. The other kid, Romeo, was someone I became friends with over the winter. How we met up was incredibly hectic yet we met up nonetheless. I basically updated him about everything and what happened when he left, and we both gave backstories of our lives. He told me a lot about Barcelona and I still just could not be happier to see him. But as time went on, we had to say goodbye, and we checked in with each other every now and then. The girl C, on the other hand, was probably more excited to see me than I was to see her. We basically talked that whole dinner, but then she asked if she could see the other people, and I did, because they also wanted to see C. When I said goodbye at the end of the day. I don’t think anyone has hugged me for longer than C has. I mean, it was a solid minute. Ok so the other two parts of the trip, Italy and France/Monaco, were full of memes and beauty. First off, we went to Italy, which shocked me to no end because it was very beautiful, and my friend Jose and Pete were basically bros the whole time. We even tried Italian pizza, and I am never trying American pizza again because it was that good. Monaco, despite it being cloudy that day, was still the most luxurious and beautiful place. The food was so good that I even liked McDonalds. It was actual meat! Nice, France on the other hand, was mediocre. It was only great because of how beautiful it looked up top and I swear to God I couldn’t get enough of that view. The meme part is when I looked like Idris Elba on Hot Ones because I put spicy olive oil on my pizza without realizing it. I was genuinely sad when I left, and I want to go back asap. Well speaking of that last sentence, right now I can’t because it’s Corona time! Ayyy! The first case in my state happens to be my vice principal, who is the head chaperone of the trip. This made me go into a quarantine for only a week because he was smart enough not to go to school that week after we came back. We were only supposed to be out for 2 days. But then a student got it and we were out for the week. As soon as that week ended, the only French teacher we have got the Coronavirus, and now we were out for two weeks because half the staff and students were quarantined. The thing was a disaster, and now for some reason we are out of school till May. For chats, nothing really happened that much until like a few days ago, where I think Jurg added me to a new gamet. It was so long since any arguments that seeing Jason, Forbes (who I forgot to mention in part 4), Torutman, and Matt, didn’t bother me at all. We all pushed that shit to the side and are on neutral terms.
Part 7: Looking Back Looking back, I definitely changed for the better. I’m happier, more defensive for myself, and just overall a better person, or at least that is what I feel. I don’t really regret joining any chats nowadays and I’m happy for being in the ones I am in. So let me do tbhs. Some are in depth, others are not. If you didn’t get a tbh, it’s probably because it’s been so long, or I haven’t talked to you.
Gamet: Jacob: I legit don’t know where to start. You were truly my first online friend. From 2016-Now you have always been someone special to me. You have helped me with tough times, and so have I. We were equivalent to a ride or die, and I appreciate it. I don’t remember how we became friends, but I have no regrets. You also introduced me to so many great people and I thank you for that.
Jurg: I’ve never seen a 13 year old more mature and funny at the same time than you, and I highly respect that. I’ll always remember when you won your war against Ari, and that shit was fucking great. Also if you still do Tomodachi Life or whatever it’s called, add me lmfao.
Vic and Jordan Since I don’t have different opinions: You’re both really cool and I’m glad we are in the same chat again
Vin: Ew you’re a Yankees fan, Jk I’m glad we’re friends but I’m bringing back yankeeshate and you can’t stop me lmao
Vinny: I am so glad we finally reunited. We have been through so much shit but we good.
Hamza: You’re a great storm chaser
Everyone else I’m friends with: Thanks lmao
sorry for the typos lmao
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2020.02.24 21:47 damazz10 Bravo Ratings 2/16/20-2/20/20

Sunday 2/16/20

Competing shows during the night (for comparison)

Monday 2/17/20

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Tuesday 2/18/20

Competing shows during the night (for comparison)

Wednesday 2/19/20

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Thursday 2/20/20

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2020.02.13 20:00 AngelInThePit Highlights from Snooki and Joey’s “It’s Happening” Podcast “Unresponsible” 2.13.20

I accept all Reddit awards and karma farming for this on time summary. Please excuse typos, spelling and grammar as usual.
They say they did 35 minutes of the podcast last week but Joey accidentally lost the audio file, but that means we get double trouble for this week and apologize for missing last week and being unresponsible. Joey likens it to watching a show on MTV or “Emergence” on CBS that was supposed to come out every Tuesday and now everything is on demand and people have forgotten to wait a week for another episode, like waiting for Seinfeld.
Nicole says last week they recapped Super Bowl and they were in LA and going to the Britney museum. Nicole says Joey met a hot cop at her Super Bowl party, but Joey also is in love with a guy named Abi. He says al these guys are straight and they’re just crushes. If Nicole hears Joey likes a guy, she will make a scene, so he doesn’t tell her anything anymore. They hot cop is named Mike who is married with two kids, and Nicole told Mike and Joey ran away and drank 10 bottle of red wine because he wanted to kill himself. Joey joking wrote him a love letter that Nicole gave him and Mike joking wrote one back.
Nicole says J.Lo and Shakira were amazing at the Super Bowl and anyone who says their performance was inappropriate is jealous. Joey agrees as he continues to clean out his coffee pot. Nicole says the performance was the highlight of her Super Bowl.
Nicole says Diana Ross flew in by helicopter for her Super Bowl half time show in the past and how interesting it was compared to J.Lo’s entrance on a stripper pole. Joey says speaking of stripper poles, he posted a video of a girl falling from a stripper pole but Nicole made him take down the video because the girl broke her jaw. Joey says she got $20,000 from a GoFundMe. Nicole says Joey should strip and he says people would only pay for him to put his clothes back on.
They then went to LA for 2 days to do press and Nicole, Deena, Jenni and Mike along with Uncle Nino were on the Family Feud agains the Hills but it won’t air until July. Nicole says they’re annoyed because they thought Joey was going to be the 5th contestant on their team and it was Uncle Nino and Joey was very upset. Joey says he understands because initially they were to go up against drag queens, so Joey says he wasn’t mad. Joey says Steve Harvey is very inspirational and told inspirational stories to the audience when the contestants weren’t on stage. Nicole says he is one of her favorite people and that the new season, her last season, of Jersey Shore Family Vacation airs Feb 27, so enjoy it.
Joey says Nicole got the flu after the Super Bowl and had to take a later flight, so she missed out on their tradition of walking down to their favorite sushi place. So Joey instead went to hang out with his friends Mike and Opal. Joey didn’t know marijuana was legal in LA, he went to Mad Men dispensary and loved how it was set up like the Apple Store. Joey began trying all the edibles they bought and he became mute with his eyes shut. Joey says it was a sour apple was his favorite and he still has them but is scared to take them. Joey says everything gets the munchies after drinking but not when he’s high, so he gets fucked up but without getting fat.
Nicole said she took a late flight out to LA, arrived at 8 PM and was not feeling well since she had the flu and wanted to just get in her cozies, but since Joey and Opal were at the hotel bar, along with Uncle Nino was was drinking 3 glasses of wine, she went down to say hi. Joey looked different and was like “I HAD SOME GUMMIES” and was a mess, so she went right back to bed.
They wanted to go to the Britney Zone before they left LA, which is an old K-Mart turned into a in person Britney Spears exhibit. They bought merchandise, and Nicole spent $500 on Joey because she was drunk and Joey had no idea how expensive things were- the jacket alone Nicole bought him was $300. Nicole says she felt bad because Opal was being to him but Joey says he has to resell the jacket and give the money back to Nicole because it was so much money. The first room they went to was a replica of the classroom from “Hit Me Baby One More Time” and they were screaming and touching everything. The place is only open to April and highly recommend people to go visit.
Nicole says the flights back was an issue because of the Coronavirus and Nicole brought masks and bleach wipes for everyone. Joey says it’s getting out of hand. While in Newark, NJ, the airport announced a cruise ship was about to dock where half the people have the Coronavirus. Deena freaked out, and about 10 people had heavy duty masks and Nicole asked where they got them because she wanted one. Joey says 50,000 people are infected and over 1,000 died from it and claims if it’s not contained that it will take bout 50% of the world population. (I’d personally like to mention that the flu has killed over 16,000 people in the USA so far this year and it’s not too late to get your flu shot).
Nicole says she needs to get a bunker and flee to the Canadian mountains, but where a Starbucks is an hour away and she doesn’t see anyone but bears. Joey says Kim and Kanye West have a bunker in Wyoming. Nicole says Joey needs to move to Jersey because the city will be blocked off due to the virus. China built a huge hospital in 10 days to quarantine infected people and they’re going door to door checking people’s temperature. Joey says this is how AIDS started, although it’s an STD, that people got it from monkeys and it spread quickly, Coronavirus comes from eating bat soup and spreads quickly. Nicole says the Chinese people eat bats and rats and it’s fucked up and Joey says they eat live monkey brains and Nicole says they’re cannibals if they can do that.
Nicole has a new pen pal, because Jessica Simpson sent her a signed book since she missed her book signing in Jersey while she was off in LA doing promotion. Nicole says she got socks, a journal, two autographed books and loves it even though Giovanna stone the journal to make stick figures in. When she finished reading the book, she will talk about it on the podcast and pay Jessica Simpson $100 to appear on the podcast. Joey says if you go to Open Book Looks on Instagram, you can see all her looks and she looks like Barbie. Joey says PETA protestors have been showing up to her book signings because she wore fur one day. LEAVE JESSICA SIMPSON ALONE, Nicole proclaims. Joey says the clip is on TMZ. Joey asks if Nicole has been ever attacked by a protester, and she said no, if she were to be, she’d scream, “police!”
Joey says he texted Nicole and she never answered because Alexa now answers the question “Who’s Joey Camasta?” like it does to the question “Who’s Snooki?” Nicole says to ask Alexa who Giovanna LaValle is and Alexa answers “Hmm, I don’t know that one,” which Joey finds hilarious since Sissy has more Instagram followers than he does and is a famous cheerleader and chicken nugget connoisseur from New Jersey.
Joey says they have have spring dates in the works for new podcast shows.
A couple of weeks ago Sophia Hutchins, Caitlyn Jenner’s girlfriend, added Joey on Instagram, and she talked about Joey on one of his Instagram live stories. They play the clip and Sophia says Joey DM’d her asking to be on the podcast and she was like “why would I be on your podcast?” Nicole interrupts and says Sophia asked for money to appear on the podcast. Sophia goes on to say Joey is really funny and has a good sense of humor and makes fun of everything include herself and Caitlyn. Sophia says she’s never heard the podcast but would be on it in the future. Joey says he wants to do an in person, in studio interview and ask about sleeping in the nude, has there been a nip slip by the pool, does Kris Jenner ever call their house and hang up.
Nicole talks about meeting famous drag queen GiGi at the Abbey in LA. Joey says her wife is so hot because she’s a masculine woman and Joey is attracted to that because he feels masculine woman can protect them. Nicole says he should date one, but Joey says while he doesn’t think he can have sex with a woman, but he’d liked to have a relationship with one. He says that it’s about being coddled like a mama’s boy. He says that was probably offensive to some people but if you’re a butch woman, come at him, bro.
At STK restaurant in LA, TMZ grabbed Joey after the cast dinner while he was outside smoking a cigarette and asked him questions, only for him to proclaim, “Nicole is a lesbian!” Joey says he was drunkingly screaming thing about Nicole to the press and it was the most fun. Nicole starts playing sound board sounds, interrupting him. Joey says palm trees make them so happy, he wanted to live in LA. He took a photo of LA palm trees and had it blown up and put in bedroom.
In celebrity gossip and discussion- Joey says Michael Jackson is in the news because Macaulay Culkin says he never touched him. They talk about the Oscars including Eminem’s Oscar performance, the Oscars’ fashions, Billy Eilish, Black Chyna, podcast awards, which Nicole wants to win even though their podcast is ‘ghetto’, Parasite movie which Joey says has everything, Netflix shows they’re watching, Dwayne Wade and Gabrielle Union’s transgender daughter, the broom vernal equinox hoax, Amber Rose’s face tattoo, Joey’s new X factor diet, Joey’s Valentine’s Date who has a magically butthole and had the best sex he ever had, Jesse Smolt, Impractical Jokers movie.
They wish everyone an amazing Valentine’s Day and have sex with your husbands and if you’re single to go to a bowling alley to meet someone there to have sex with and to pray Joey does the deed. Nicole asks for Joey to put him on his Instastories.
Last episode highlights can be found here.
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2019.12.21 20:29 guyse2015 5 beautiful women Basketball star Dwayne Wade has dated

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2019.11.10 16:36 Bill__Q The Ron Magill Index

A page of links to the show notes I'm creating for the Ron Magill segment. I started on October 4, 2019 and will attempt to put up new shows in a timely manner. No promises I'll do older shows, but I will link to them here if anyone else adds some. Update: unless I missed any, all shows for 2019 will be listed below by the end of December 2019. I'll start a new index for 2020.
If you're reading this and somehow don't know who Ron Magill is, he's the Miami Zoo Communications Director. He also answers questions on the Dan Le Batard show. Ron is usually on during the top of the third hour on Tuesdays; or, sometimes a different day; or he won't be there at all. But usually on Tuesdays, if he isn't traveling.
Learn more about Ron:


Newest to oldest
Date Highlights
link A review of 2019
December 10 2019, Hour 3 Ron catches people getting freaky in the zoo and searches porn sites until he finds it; Stugotz is right about turtles; a rat with major testicles
December 03 2019, Hour 3 Anal glands, it’s your fault if coyotes eat your pets; big balloons are attractive
November 26 2019, Hour 3 Lizards don’t have families, blue jays are thugs; the koala crisis is a crock; weenie dog races
November 19 2019, Hour 3 Elephant is the best left tackle; rubbing a dog’s belly; Chris has a butter knife
November 12 2019, Hour 2 What Ron would ask a whale; pee pee doo doo; Ron digs up a decaying orangutan
November 5 2019, Hour 3 Cannibal ants; Tippi Hedren is a beautiful woman; Mike will cook your pot-bellied pig on Christmas Eve; Did you ever get to meet Jacques Cousteau?
October 22 2019, Hour 3 Flamingos need to breed in a crowd; birds date better than humans
October 15 2019, Hour 3 Shit tzu smells like garbage; dogs don’t recognize their reflection; anaconda swallowed a cow
October 8 2019, Hour 3 Ron likes the smell of a barn; doesn’t like roaches
October 4 2019, Hour 3 Pygmy chimpanzees solve everything with sex; Ron still wants to be a harpy eagle; angry dolphin face
August 27 2019, Hour 3 Do race horses know they are racing?
August 13 2019, Hour 3 Blue whales make the loudest sound in the world; weakening of the Endangered Species Act is a travesty
August 6 2019, Hour 3 Bees are dying; sloths go to the bathroom once a week; grasshopper plagues
July 16 2019, Hour 3 Meth gator; meth squirrel
July 09 2019, Hour 3 Porcupine has fine meat; let an old dog eat whatever makes him happy; blue whale and elephant poop
July 02 20019, Hour 3 Don’t smack a puppy; capybaras are yummy
June 25 2019, Hour 3 How to build a bat house; did meteors bring octopus eggs; Ron is unimpressed with a Japanese zoo’s escaped animal drill
June 19 2019, Hour 3 Ron makes wild dog noises; Ron is looked down on at zoo conferences
June 11 2019, Hour 3 Top 10 list of cruise songs; bees take in a baseball game; induced ovulation and artificial insemination
May 21 2019, Hour 3 African wild dog died at Zoo Miami; Ron found out he was actually bad at basketball
May 14 2019, Hour 3 Pet turtles will outlive you; Ron doesn’t like wine, likes eating rat; Is it true the male billy goat attracts females by urinating on its own face?
April 30 2019, Hour 3 Birth of a rare Indian rhinoceros; cataract surgery on a gorilla; peacocks are good for nothing; Did you ever get to meet Jacques Cousteau?; constipated goldfish
April 16 2019, Hour 3 Corporate Michael; gorillas fighting Tysons; elephants fighting
April 09 2019, Hour 3 Poachers; Dwayne Wade is scared of birds; the hippo not named after Dan has a cleft palate; cheetah fart
April 02 2019, Hour 3 Farts; sea lion farts; cheetah farts; the horrifying sound of Galapagos tortoises mating
March 21 2019, Hour 3 Hitting avocado trees; badgers and wolverines; all animals and insects versus all humans
March 12 2019, Hour 3 Ron takes photos of animals “mating”; take responsibility for not being so bright
March 05 2019, Hour 3 Ron’s first movie as an animal wrangler was Five Corners with John Turturro and Jodie Foster; on the Letterman show three times; I had a cheetah in my bed;
February 27 2019, Hour 3 Back from Antarctica; do better PETA; harpy eagle
February 05 2019, Hour 3 Since he was a kid, Ron has collected bones; lesbian flamingos
January 22 2019, Hour 3 A bald eagle is nothing more than a vulture with a good PR agent; harpy eagle rant; the movie Anaconda
January 15 2019, Hour 3 Squirrels are evil; would gorillas raise a human baby or eat it?
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2019.10.24 14:17 perochan NCT 127 - NEO CITY : SEOUL – The Origin (1st Live Album)

NCT 127 - NEO CITY : SEOUL – The Origin (1st Live Album)

NCT 127 - NEO CITY : SEOUL – The Origin – The 1st Live Album

Release Date: October 24, 2019
Track Lyrics by Composed by Arranged by
01. Cherry Bomb Taeyong, Mark, Deepflow, Lim Jung Hyo, Oh Min Ju Dwayne Abernathy Jr., Jennifer Decilveo, Deez, Jakob Mihoubi, Rudi Daouk, Michael Woods, Kevin White, Andrew Bazzi, MZMC Dem Jointz, Deez
02. 악몽 (Come Back) Bong Eun Young (Jam Factory), Ryu Dasom, Taeyong, Mark Mike Daley, Mitchell Owens, Michael Jiminez, Deez, MZMC, Tay Jasper Mike Daley
03. 無限的我 (무한적아; Limitless) Kenzie Kenzie, Harvey Mason Jr., Patrick 'J Que' Smith, Kevin Randolph, Dewain Whitmore, Andrew Hey, Brittany Burton Kenzie
04. Chain (Korean Ver.) JQ, 온결, SOHLHEE 250, Albin Nordqvist 250, Albin Nordqvist
05. 신기루 (Fly Away With Me) Kang Eun Jung, Hwang Yu Bin Jenna Andrews, Dillon Pace, Rory Wynne Andrew, Francesco Yates Dillon Pace
06. Back 2 U (AM 01:27) 1월8일, Seo Min Ji, Taeyong The Stereotypes, August Rigo, PRISMFILTER The Stereotypes, August Rigo, PRISMFILTER
07. 지금 우리 (City 127) JQ, Moon Hui Yeon, Taeyong, Mark Jonathan Yip, Jeremy Reeves, Ray Romulus, Ray McCullough, Micah Powell, Clarence Coffee Jr., Taeyong The Stereotypes
08. Angel mr.cho, Taeyong, Mark mr.cho, Cheongdamdong Park Gun Woo mr.cho, Cheongdamdong Park Gun Woo
09. Sun & Moon Jung Joo Hee (Jam Factory), 1월8일 Afshin Salmani, Josh Cumbee, Jai Waetford NONFICTION
10. 텐데… (Timeless) Jeon Gan Di Andrew Choi, 220, Kim Young Shin 220, Kim Young Shin
11. 나의 모든 순간 (No Longer) Hwang Hyun (MonoTree) Andreas Oberg, Simon Petren, Gustav Karlstrom, Onestar (MonoTree), 에스나 (eSNa) Simon Petren
01. Interlude: Regular to Irregular --- Hitchhiker, Kim Kyung Min Hitchhiker, Kim Kyung Min
02. Regular (Korean Ver.) Coogie, Tommy $trate, Taeyong, Mark Mike Daley, Mitchell Owens, Wilbart 'Vedo' McCoy III , George Kranz, Yoo Young Jin Mike Daley, Mitchell Owens
03. Wake Up Kim In Hyung (Jam Factory), Baek In Kyung, Cho Jin Joo LDN Noise, Tay Jasper LDN Noise
04. Baby Don’t Like It (나쁜 짓) Taeyong, Mark, G.Soul DIGI, G.Soul, Taeyong, Mark, Tay Jasper, MZMC, Jonathan Perkins Jamil 'Digi' Chammas, Jonathan Perkins
06. Good Thing JQ, Hyun Ji Won (makeumine works), Taeyong, Mark Justin Gray, Steve Daly, T. Coles Decarlo Justin Gray, Steve Daly
07. Touch Cho Yoon Kyung, Kim Min Ji LDN Noise, Deez, Adrian Mckinnon LDN Noise
08. 롤러코스터 (Heartbreaker) Hwang Ji Won (Jam Factory) Coach & Sendo, Jantine Annika Heij, Cimo Frankel, Rik Annema Coach & Sendo
09. Replay (PM 01:27) Bang Hye Hyun (Jam Factory) LDN Noise, Varren Wade LDN Noise
10. 소방차 (Fire Truck) Taeyong, Mark, Jaehyun, Lee Suran LDN Noise, Tay Jasper, Ylva Dimberg LDN Noise
11. Simon Says JQ, DADA, Tommy Strate Choi Jin Seok, Ronny Svendsen, Anne Judith Stokke Wik, Bobii Lewis, Yoo Young Jin Choi Jin Seok, Ronny Svendsen, Yoo Young Jin
12. Welcome To My Playground Seo Ji Eum, Ra. D, BrotherSu, Taeyong, Mark Johan Gustafsson, Ra. D, BrotherSu Johan Gustafsson
13. Summer 127 Taeyong, Mark, $un (153/Joombas), Bae Min Soo (Joombas), seizetheday, CiaNo Shin Hyuk (153/Joombas), Davey Nate, Devin Hoffman, Eric Scullin, Jass Reyes, Chek Parren Chek Parren
14. 0 Mile Taeyong, Mark, Cho Yoon Kyung, Cho Jin Joo, Choi So Young, Park Yong Joon Christian Fast, Julimar J-Son Santos, Henrik Nordenback Christian Fast, Henrik Nordenback
STREAM ON Spotify / Apple Music / Melon
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2019.07.16 18:59 bssbronzie [Official] NBA 2K20 Overalls Revealed Top 20 Overall + Top 5 Rookies

Top 20 Reveal
Top 5 Bigs
Official 2K20 Cover
Speculated Top 100 Ratings (Some haven't been officially confirmed)
Top 20 Overalls:
Overall Rank Player Overall Rating
1. LeBron James 97
2. Kawhi Leonard 97
3. Giannis Antetokounmpo 96
4. Kevin Durant 96
5. James Harden 96
6. Stephen Curry 95
7. Anthony Davis 94
8. Paul George 93
9. Damian Lillard 92
10. Joel Embiid 91
11. Kyrie Irving 91
12. Nikola Jokic 90
13. Russell Westbrook 90
14. Klay Thompson 89
15. Karl-Anthony Towns 89
16. Jimmy Butler 88
17. Kemba Walker 88
18. Donovan Mitchell 88
19. Rudy Gobert 88
20. Blake Griffin 88
Top five rookies:
Rank Player Overall Rating
1. Zion Williamson 81
2. Ja Morant 79
3. RJ Barrett 78
4. De'Andre Hunter 77
5. Darius Garland 77
Notable Players (*Not Officially Confirmed)
Overall Rank Player Overall Rating
*33. Luka Doncic 87
*46. Pascal Siakam 85
*49. Deandre Ayton 84
*55. Trae Young 84
*90. Jaren Jackson Jr. 80
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2019.07.16 16:24 HisPurpose828 Rapid fire, shallow thoughts on NBA players from a rookie fan

I went through a list of names with my wife, who was a first time fan this season, asking her to say the first things that came to mind for each player. Enjoy!
Lebron James - GOAT. Tacooooo Tuesdayyyyyy. Has an entourage.
Kawhi Leonard - Board man and apples. One of my faves. Low key savage.
Kevin Durant - I don’t really like him that much.
Giannis Antetokounmpo - I love him. MVP. Has a lot of brothers and hits the woah.
Stephen Curry - baller. Ayesha too. I want to watch his TV show.
Klay Thompson - love him. Splash brother and loyal. Tore his ACL and went back out - RESPECT.
James Harden - Beard. Annoying. What did he look like without the beard?
Russell Westbrook - Lebron’s entourage. Yelled at a fan, but I think the fan deserved it. Lost all his friends on the Thunder.
Anthony Davis - brow. People think he’s so great, but the Mavs beat the Pelicans this year.
Damian Lillard - Dame time.
Kyrie Irving - Don’t know much. Doesn’t like his teammates though.
Paul George - I can’t keep him and Chris Paul straight.
Joel Embiid - Hulu has live sports.
Ben Simmons - I think he dated a Kardashian.
Luka Dončić - Halleluka. He’s baby goat and colder than a tall glass of kombucha. And I LOVE kombucha. Hala Madrid!
Drake - Raptors 6th man. Tats of KD and Steph though. Throws shade. Superfan, but couldn’t even get Kawhi to stay in Toronto.
Dirk - the REAL goat. Dallas loves him. Great style. Nice to everyone. Key to Dallas and to my heart.
Mark Cuban - trying to make Dallas the new capital of Europe.
Dwayne Wade - Gabrielle Union
Fred VanVleet - VanYEEEEET. He got poked in the eye and tooth. Had a baby then was clutch in the playoffs. I like that his name is Fred.
Chris Paul - see Paul George
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2018.12.27 16:20 ZandrickEllison Which coach should your team hire? The HIRING SQUAD is here to help

Over the last two weeks, we've enlisted "the Firing Squad" to determine which coaches should get the boot.
Now, we're going to be a little more optimistic and cheery and recommend which coaches should get hired in their place. Call it: the HIRING SQUAD.
The job openings we've been tasked to fill are the ones created by our evil executioner: Arizona, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Green Bay, Jacksonville, and the New York Jets. We're going to go through them in the general order of their desirability as job openings.
A few notes: the exercise here is stating which coaches should be hired, not who will be hired. This is my amateur analysis, not predictions or a guessing game. To that end, I did not include college coaches in this, because we don't know which coaches would actually want to make that leap.
With that said, here are my two cents, but feel free to throw your own into the fountain/comment section as well.
Green Bay Packers
head coach
Clearly, the marriage between Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy ran stale. We can get caught up in the blame game, but the real focus should be how to improve things moving forward.
Considering his phenomenal talent, there's simply no excuse for Aaron Rodgers to play in a sluggish, slow-paced offense, or for him to take so much punishment and so many sacks. As he gets older and older, that needs to change before his body breaks down.
Given that, the coach that makes the most sense to me would be JOSH McDANIELS, New England offensive coordinator. Obviously, he comes with a shit load of baggage, beyond his runaway bride routine with the Colts last year. There's some real doubt about how successful he can be outside of Bill Belichick's shadow, as he's never demonstrated that ability before.
That said, McDaniels does check a lot of the boxes for the Packers' needs. He has extensive experience with a faster-paced, quick-hitting offense that endeavors to keep its older quarterback's jersey clean. McDaniels has also demonstrated creativity in his gameplans, adjusting when appropriate. Rodgers and McDaniels may kill each other, but they may win a Super Bowl together, too. To me, that upside is worth the risk.
The decision should be easy on the defensive end. Current coordinator Mike Pettine is a fine man for the job. He's helped improve the Packers' defense to some degree this season, and should only get better in year two. All in all, he's arguably a top 5 coordinator. Barring some sort of personality conflict, there's no reason to shove him aside.
On the offensive end, McDaniels will want to make more changes to establish his authority and the "Patriots way." Given that, he should probably avoid former Packers aides like Alex Van Pelt, Edgar Bennett, Ben McAdoo, or Joe Philbin, who may side with Rodgers and create a power struggle. McDaniels needs an ally.
The solider that I'd tap for that assignment would be Kevin O'Connell, who currently serves as the QB coach in Washington. The 33-year-old O'Connell is a former quarterback who previously played for -- you guessed it -- the New England Patriots. He's quite young, but he's a rising star with a bright future. He can be Josh McDaniels' own version of "Josh McDaniels." Hopefully, with less douchiness.
Cleveland Browns
head coach
The Cleveland Browns have turned a corner since Hue Jackson's firing, and as a result, a lot of their fans seem to want Gregg Williams to stay on as the head coach.
In my mind, that would be a mistake. Williams' hard-ass approach may squeeze a little extra effort out initially, but the drill sergeant act doesn't lend itself to long-term success. There's a reason that Williams busted as a head coach for Buffalo (going 17-31) and there's a reason that he's never garnered head coaching interest since then. I would look to a sustainable hire, even if it means the team risks losing Williams in the process.
I would also pass on Bruce Arians, a popular candidate for the job. While Gregg Williams may burn out his team, a team may burn out Bruce Arians. He's 66 and has had health issues in the past. Moreover, his vertical passing game tends to leave his quarterbacks vulnerable to a lot of punishment. Baker Mayfield is the franchise right now, and I don't want to jeopardize his health either.
The Browns have a chance to be a playoff contender in 2019, but also in 2020, and 2021, and 2022, and possibly for the next 10 years after that. I want a coach who's going to be here for the long haul to see that through. All this leads me to a leader like DAVE TOUB, Kansas City special teams coordinator.
Toub is not only one of the best special teams coaches right now, he's one of the best of all-time. He's had consistent success dating back to his days with the Devin Hester Chicago Bears. In fact, a lot of fans claim he's benefited from Hester (and now Tyreek Hill in Kansas City), but that ignores all the other returners that have thrived under Toub. Moreover, that ignores the extraordinary success he has in every facet of special teams, including covering kicks as well. Toub teams have not allowed a return touchdown against them since 2010.
Make no mistake: special teams is not 1/3 of the game. But if it's 1/8? 1/9? Then your team gets an edge with Toub that may mean the difference between making the playoffs or not.
In my mind, Toub is long overdue for a head coaching job. This one in Cleveland appears to be a good fit for him as well. GM John Dorsey previously came from Kansas City and should know Toub well. Better yet, the offense+defense talent is in place, allowing him to focus on special teams and overall leadership a la John Harbaugh in Baltimore. Moreover, Toub comes from a Kansas City team that has thrived with an aggressive game plan and a QB with swagger; I don't think he'd try to restrain Baker Mayfield either. It takes a perfect storm for a special teams coach to land a gig, but this may be that swell.
Another reason Dorsey can potentially go "outside the box" with Dave Toub is because he'd have confidence in the coordinators in the building. The unheralded and unknown Freddie Kitchens has been on a roll ever since he took over playcalling duties. Retaining him should be a no-brainer. In fact, the only concern here is whether Kitchens may be looking for head coaching jobs.
Defensively, I would like to retain Gregg Williams as well. Now, certainly, Williams may bristle at that. It would be a demotion for a (winning) interim coach. That said, Williams is unlikely to land anything but DC jobs on the open market. If he can swallow his pride, he'd realize this may still be the best job for him out there.
If Williams does say "no", then Toub would have to tap another 4-3 coordinator. I'd eye Jerome Henderson, the DB coach in Atlanta. In fact, he's even interviewed for a head coaching job with this Cleveland franchise in the past.
New York Jets
head coach
If the New York Jets shed Todd Bowles (as expected), they are almost certainly going to look for an offensive head coach to develop Sam Darnold. Darnold has talent, but is still extremely young and raw. He needs to smooth out his bad habits before his confidence suffers.
The Jets' first instinct would be trying to land the "hot new thing!" coach that worked so well for Jared Goff/Sean McVay with the Rams, as well as Mitchell Trubisky/Matt Nagy with the Bears. The problem is that the bench of offensive guru coaches is a little thin right now. Unless the Jets feel comfortable tapping into the NCAA ranks, they may be forced to reach on a younger and less experienced offensive coach.
They go with the adult in the room in MIKE McCARTHY, former Green Bay head coach.
No doubt, Mike McCarthy struggled to connect with Aaron Rodgers over these last few years. Their offense looked slow and bogged down, and overly reliant on Rodgers making miracle plays.
But that said, you can't knock the guy's experience. It's not every day that you're going to see a coach with a 125-77-2 record and a Super Bowl ring on the open market. It's not like McCarthy is some dinosaur either; he's still only 55 years old.
You can see also some similarities between Sam Darnold and young Aaron Rodgers if you squint hard enough. Coming out of Cal, there were concerns about Rodgers' mechanics and release that McCarthy helped smooth out. Darnold also has a tendency to break from the pocket and make plays on the move. There's good and bad to that. That does have a tendency to lead to sacks (like Rodgers takes) or turnovers (which Rodgers amazingly avoids), so McCarthy would have to be a little careful in that regard. Still, you don't want a coach who's going to force Darnold to be a robot either, because there's some natural improv ability to him that you want to harness.
If you want to be optimistic about McCarthy, you can point to Andy Reid, who wore out his welcome with Philadelphia and still went on to a great run with Kansas City. Personally, I don't think McCarthy is on Reid's level of offensive genius, but even if he's 80% there that would be a heck of an improvement for these Jets. And it would go a heck of a long way to creating a nice environment for Sam Darnold to develop.
Throughout his run in Green Bay, Mike McCarthy has cycled through a lot of offensive coordinators and assistants. Tom Clements, Edgar Bennett, Joe Philbin, Ben McAdoo, Alex Van Pelt, etc. Given all that, it's difficult to tell whom he (currently) likes and whom he doesn't.
Let's go with Alex Van Pelt, just to give Darnold an extra set of quarterback eyes for the brain trust. Van Pelt is a former quarterback and a QB coach by trade, currently serving in that role in Cincinnati. While Mike McCarthy never trusted AVP with the OC job with Green Bay, he has worked in that capacity in the past. If the two can get on the same page, they can help create a playbook and system that Darnold can develop in.
The team would also be wise to keep Josh McCown in the building, either as a backup QB or as the official QB coach. McCown will be an OC eventually, and the franchise should let him rise that ladder right where he is.
Defensively, there's plenty of wiggle room here. Todd Bowles' 3-4 defense was fairly effective and disciplined overall, but never generated a ton of pressure up front. Given that, there's no real strong commitment to the 3-4 scheme. McCarthy can hire any coordinator that he sees fit.
Historically, McCarthy favors experienced coordinators/former head coaches who own their side of the ball. To that end, some candidates would include Chuck Pagano, Jack Del Rio, and Mike Nolan. At the moment, Nolan is working as the Saints' LB coach, but he comes with tons of experience as a defensive coordinator and served as a head coach in San Francisco. Another candidate would be John Pagano (LB-HOU), one of the better 3-4 coordinator candidates around.
Cincinnati Bengals
head coach
While he's become a punchline lately, Marvin Lewis deserves a lot of credit for stabilizing the Cincinnati Bengals' organization after a stretch that may have been more brutal and embarrassing than the recent Cleveland Browns. Given that respect, there was some hope that Lewis could transition gracefully into a front office role, and hand power over to one of his proteges.
Unfortunately, that hasn't gone according to plan. After coming over from Detroit, charismatic DC Teryl Austin appeared to be that type of possible "heir." That is: until he flamed out. Lewis may like Hue Jackson (now back on the staff), but Jackson's damaged his reputation beyond repair. He's unhireable as a head coach right now. As a result, the Bengals are going to have to look outside their organization for this next coach.
The outsider that I favor for this job is: JIM SCHWARTZ, Philadelphia defensive coordinator.
Some Bengals fans may bristle at that name, because Schwartz didn't have much success in his run at Detroit. However, we have to look beyond the simple stats and at the virtues of the man himself. Schwartz has proven to be an exceptional coordinator everywhere he's been: in Tennessee (prior to Detroit), Buffalo, and now Philadelphia. His wide-nine 4-3 system isn't far removed from the current scheme, which should make the transition easier. He has a reputation for false bravado, but he's an intelligent man (Georgetown grad) who embraces modern concepts and advanced stats as well.
And while the rest of the league may be looking for offensive head coaches, defense is the biggest problem here in my mind. Despite a roster that appears talented (on paper), the Bengals got worse and worse and worse on defense on a week-to-week basis. They've given up 2000 rushing yards to opponents at 4.8 yards per carry. That's simply unacceptable. Hiring Schwartz would go a long way to settling that ship and getting back to the playoffs.
As mentioned, I don't believe this Cincinnati Bengals' offense is very far away. With better health, and a few improvements along the offensive line, it may become a top 10/15 unit again in a hurry. Joe Mixon is the real deal, giving the team a dynamic two-way threat that takes the heat off A.J. Green. All in all, I don't see the need for wholesale changes here. I'd be fine retaining current OC Bill Lazor, whom I'd prefer over Hue Jackson.
Defensively, we can throw a bone to the Marvin Lewis tree and hire Vance Joseph as the new DC. Joseph flopped as a head coach, but he may have been too green for the job. He still needs to develop as a coordinator first, which a veteran like Schwartz can help him do. Joseph has a good mix of experience in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes, most relevantly working as the Cincinnati DB coach under Lewis for several seasons.
Jacksonville Jaguars
head coach
Despite their disappointing season, the Jacksonville Jaguars are still an appealing (potential) job opening. The defense is still top notch, and the pieces are in place for a good running game as well.
Of course, their biggest issue happens to be the most important one: the quarterback and passing game. If the team does replace Doug Marrone, a coach with that background should be a priority.
Given that need, I'm tapping TODD MONKEN, Tampa Bay offensive coordinator. He's not exactly a household name nationally, but Bucs fans have seen his positive effect since taking over the playcalling duties this year. As a team, Tampa has thrown for 5000 yards, averaging 8.5 yards per pass attempt (2nd highest in the NFL.)
With an older OC like Monken (age 52), there's not as much concern about whether the head coaching job is "too much" for him. He's actually served as a head coach in college before, helping to turn around the Southern Miss program. The Golden Eagles were 0-12 when he arrived, and 8-5 when he left. There, he also helped to develop QB Nick Mullens into a viable NFL player. I'm not convinced that Mullens is a viable starter necessarily, but if Monken and the Jags want to acquire him, that's not a bad fallback plan.
More likely, Monken would be in charge of developing a rookie QB, with Ohio State's Dwayne Haskins the most likely candidate now that Justin Herbert has decided to return to Oregon. In the modern NFL, you don't want to handle these quarterbacks with kid gloves. You want a coach who will help them be aggressive, which is Monken's calling card so far.
It'd be interesting to see if Todd Monken would tap Dirk Koetter as an offensive assistant if Koetter gets fired in Tampa Bay. The two are friends; in fact, Koetter's the only reason that Monken came over to the NFL. Koetter also has experience with this Jacksonville franchise before, serving as the OC there for several seasons. In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if Koetter emerges as a head coaching candidate for this team as well. They need passing offense, after all.
But if Koetter doesn't feel like taking the OC job (or if Monken feels uncomfortable with that power dynamic), then I would look for a younger candidate like Byron Leftwich, who is currently the OC in Arizona. Still only 38, Leftwich would be well served developing under an offensive-minded coach, and would be making his own reunion with the franchise in this role.
Defensively, I'm not as concerned. This team doesn't need a major shakeup in terms of personnel or their coaching staff either. To me, current DC Todd Wash would be a fine pick to retain.
Denver Broncos
head coach
Two years ago, John Elway took a gamble on inexperienced Vance Joseph over the natural and karmic choice, Kyle Shanahan.
That has not gone well. As the team looks toward the future and to addressing the QB position, Elway needs a proper "mulligan" here.
The bench of offensive guru coaches is not very deep right now. However, the name that makes the most sense for me here would be MATT LaFLEUR, Tennessee offensive coordinator. LaFleur and John DeFilippo (in MIN) entered the season as first-year coordinators with huge expectations. DeFilippo didn't live up to his, but LaFleur has steadily improved his unit since the bye week.
LaFleur, still only 39 years old, may not be totally "ready" yet, but that's part of the appeal of him landing in Denver. Deep in his heart, Elway wants to recreate his own system, led by Mike Shanahan, and passed down to Gary Kubiak (his OC) and then Kyle Shanahan (who worked as an OC under his dad and Kubiak both.)
That family/coaching tree would continue with LaFleur. He recently spent a year in L.A. with Sean McVay, but prior to that he worked for 5+ years as an assistant under Kyle Shanahan and operates a lot of the same principles. Those are the same principles employed by Kubiak, who is still in the building working as an advisor. Kubiak would be an ideal mentor for LaFleur going forward.
With the same idea of reestablishing the Shanahan system, the team can hire Eric Studesville to be the offensive coordinator (in name only.) Studesville is currently working as the RB coach for Miami, but he has extensive experience with Denver previously, even serving as an interim head coach for them in the past. Studesville wouldn't be a playcaller, but would help LaFleur integrate his system. Rick Dennison (currently the Jets' OL coach) would be another natural fit as well, after serving as Gary Kubiak's right-hand man for many years.
Defensively, more help and responsibility would be needed. Personally, I don't have a big problem with current coordinator Joe Woods. He's helped rookie DE Bradley Chubb thrive, despite some concerns he wasn't a great fit for their scheme. When you have an offensive overhaul, I like maintaining consistency on the other end. Defense is not going to be a big focus this offseason.
Of course, not every new coach wants to retain an assistant from the previous staff. They may want some fresh ideas, and the ability to implement without resistance. If LaFleur wants someone new, I like the idea of either John Pagano or Chuck Pagano in this role. They both come from a 3-4 background, and have the type of experience and steady hand that would allow LaFleur to focus on his side of the ball.
Arizona Cardinals
head coach
The Arizona Cardinals tapped first-year coordinator Steve Wilks last year. At the time, I thought Wilks looked like head coach material. A year later? It's hard to find a lot of merit here. In hindsight, you certainly wonder if the team should have gone with their old coordinator James Bettcher, or made the more-obvious move of going "offense" instead.
Rather than wait it out with Steve Wilks, our firing squad jury decided to fire him. In that event, the Cards would most likely prioritize offensive minds who can help Josh Rosen develop. They may not land their 1st or 2nd choice either. Rosen didn't look great as a rookie, and there are concerns about the front office.
Given all that, the team may have to take another swing on an untested coach like KEVIN STEFANSKI, Minnesota offensive coordinator. For Stefanski, this would be quite a leap. We all presumed Minnesota OC John DeFilippo would land a job in 2019, with Stefanski taking the reins of the offense and earning his own looks in 2020. After DeFilippo flamed out, Stefanski jumped ahead in line.
But make no mistake: Stefanski has plenty of merits himself. He has an interesting background that illustrates his intelligence: he's an Ivy League grad (UPenn) whose father is a long-time NBA executive. He's quietly blended in to the Minnesota offensive staff for years, earning kudos behind the scenes for his hard work and humility. Based on media interviews, he looks like a future star.
Is Stefanski "ready" for a head coaching job? Probably not. He literally just took his first coordinator job a few weeks ago. Still, NFL teams like "young." They like "offense." And Arizona is a team that needs to take a gamble on that more than most. For that reason, I'm going to take a home run swing on Stefanski over a more experienced coordinator like Pete Carmichael from the Saints.
If the Arizona Cardinals shed Steve Wilks and go with a young offensive coach like Kevin Stefanski (don't be surprised if John DeFilippo gets some looks too, despite the firing), then it makes sense to surround them with seasoned vets who can act as mentors.
Towards that end, I like the idea of someone like Joe Philbin serving as a right-hand man. While Philbin didn't work as a head coach in Miami, he's always earned high marks for his character. His background is also as an OL coach, which should help Arizona work on that problem area. Rosen is also close with Aaron Rodgers, who raves about Philbin's impact on his development. Rodgers can recommend Philbin to Rosen and vice versa.
Cards fans may still be uncomfortable about the idea of trusting another first-year coordinator as a head coach, so we'll give them another experienced safety net on the defensive side of the ball as well. Todd Bowles has a strong resume as a coordinator, specifically with this Arizona team. If the team goes back to Bowles, they can turn back to a pure 3-4 scheme that their players seem to prefer. The idea of pairing a young offensive coach with a veteran who can hold the fort on D has worked for Sean McVay (with Wade Phillips) in L.A. and Matt Nagy (with Vic Fangio) in Chicago.
quick notes on other situations
I didn't mention Tampa Bay, because they were a "hung jury" in our firing squad series. In reality, Dirk Koetter will probably get the axe. But as mentioned in the trial, I'm not 100% certain that will/should happen. Offensive coaches are in demand, and keeping him for another year would mirror Jameis Winston's expiring contract. They may decide to keep both for 2019 before making final decisions on them (and GM Jason Licht). If they clean house, the ideal situation for the team would be to hire someone like Kris Richard (DB-DAL) as the head coach and retain Todd Monken as OC (if possible.)
Kris Richard would also be a strong option for the head coaching job in Cincinnati. I'm a bigger fan of Jim Schwartz than most (Hoya Saxa), but most actual experts may rank Richard > Schwartz for job openings.
Kansas City's OC Eric Bienemy is also a hot coaching name who didn't land a job in this post. He's a RB coach by trade and has no experience as a playcaller or with QBs. It'd take a unique situation for him to fit in. You may say the same about New Orleans Pete Carmichael Jr., another non-playcalling OC. Carmichael defenders can tout the success of coaches like Doug Pederson and Frank Reich, neither of whom were playcallers. That said, both Pederson and Reich have more of a "leader of men" vibe than Carmichael, which may be holding him back.
There's a bias against non-playcallers, and there's certainly a bias against defensive coaches. Some names that will draw consideration include Vic Fangio (CHI), James Bettcher (NYG), and rookie coordinator Matt Eberflus (IND). Rams' special teams coordinator John Fassel may land an interview or two as well.
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2018.12.01 22:18 FlynnPatrick The Top 100 Players Under 25 Years Old

Hey All!
So here is a new series I'm doing. My plan is to post this twice a year. Once around this time and once after the draft.
This is called "The Top 100 Players Under 25 Years Old". There tends to be a lot of posts on here asking who are the best players under 25. And obviously, as NBA fans, we tend to get more excited about the younger prospects for obvious reasons.
So I compiled a list.
These are all current NBA players.

This isn't a "top 100 players under 25 RIGHT NOW" list. There is also the hype factor. How big of an impact will they have, what is the star potential, etc. AKA potential was factored in a lot with current talent. EMPHASIS on this.

Anyways, let's get right to it:

Top 100 Age NBA Quote Comment
100. Anfernee Simons 19 years, 5 Months "Probably won't get much playing time but in the next few seasons he'll be a nice scoring option. If he develops quickly they might look to trade CJ." Simons cracks the list at number 100. The first player picked out of high school in a while, he has time to develop but from early indications he still has a long way to go. Still, he has a cool name, and will still be eligible for this list 5 years from now.
99. Dante Exum 23 years, 4 months "Dante will never get that time back, but if he keeps working hard and stays healthy, he'll be a good player in this league for a very long time and has the potential to be more." Exum cracks the list. A top 5 pick in 2014, has experience a lot of unfortunate circumstances. It doesn't help that he got a healthy DNP last night. But, the Jazz need a long term PG, he absolutely has serious defensive talent, and he is amazingly still young enough where there is still a slimmer of hope to reach his potential.
98. Frank Ntilikina 20 years, 4 months "He can pass and defend, that's pretty much it." Him regressing on offense is not good. That being said, he still has ridiculous defensive potential and is basically the age of a rookie still.
97. Troy Brown Jr. 19 years, 4 months "I think his name is too boring" The quote is basic but is a good reason why he is being overlooked. It doesn't help that he's stuck in a weird spot in the Wizards rotation. But watching him last night, there is some serious potential here and I would not be surprised to see him get more playing time as the season goes on.
96. Malik Beasley 22 years, 0 months "As an FSU grad and a Denver Nuggets fan I'm so happy he's been doing so well in the pros. Successful FSU Basketball players are rare so I hope Beasley has a long career." Wouldn't have seen the list before this season, but he has made a big time step up in his 3rd season and there is some serious promise here.
95. Jordan Bell 23 years, 10 months "People hate Jordan Bell? He might be the most likable guy on GSW" This is probably his ceiling, but he's consistently in the rotation for Golden State and has solid long term defensive potential.
94. Chandler Hutchison 22 years, 7 months "Hutch is such a weird player, because he’s a 4 year college player, yet everything about him screams that he’ll be a slow developing player in the pros who ends up being considerably talented." He doesn't play much, but when he does Hutchison has shown some clear flashes of talent. His ceiling is likely a role player, but barring injury, I think he'll be a solid role player for a while.
93. Noah Vonleh 23 years, 3 months "On behalf of the Knicks community I want to thank all the other teams who gave up on Vonleh. He's been great for us." It took nearly 5 years, but there was consistent improvement over time and it's finally paying off for Vonleh so far. 9/8 averages with consistent shooting and will probably get paid this offseason. Still only 23 surprisingly (just 6 months older than Chandler Hutchison) but it's been an A+ year for him so far.
92. Damian Jones 23 years, 5 months "The best we’ve seen from Jones and even looks way better than he did in preseason." Yes he's on the Warriors, yes his long term potential is a question mark. But an athletic 7 footer who is shooting 75% from the field will get noticed regardless of the situation.
91. Robert Williams 21 years, 1 month "I still think Williams is a higher upside option who also happens to be cost controlled." When he has played, there is clear talent and a LOT of potential. Marcus Morris praised him last night. I wouldn't be surprised to see him much higher up on this list in June.
90. Omari Spellman 21 years, 4 months "Fantastic pick. I have him as the steal of the draft." The Hawks have struggled this year, but long term they are doing the right thing and Spellman has very nice long term potential. Just 21, nice size, surprisingly nice shooting range, nice IQ., models his game after Draymond. He's had some rookie struggles but my bet is on him looking really nice in 2 years.
89. Cedi Osman 23 years, 7 months "Out of all the players LeBron's played with in his 15 seasons, he took Cedi under his wing. Hell of an endorsement. I'm still surprised lol." He's had his opportunities this year, and efficiency is an issue. But he has a very pretty all around game, hype being from Turkey, and when he's on it's pretty.
88. Gary Clark 24 years, 0 months "He is the one that took Melos mins. He is a MF beast. He will be 1st Team all defense in 2-3 years, I guarantee that." An old rookie, but he's going to be known as the guy who took Melo's minutes for a while. Not likely a sexy long term player, but serious defensive potential.
87. Hamidou Diallo 20 years, 4 months "Really excited for this kid’s potential to be unlocked, The Thunder’s brisk offense should really benefit from his athleticism!" A big time surprise. Major inefficiency issues in college but this is an example of a player being more fit for the NBA with his potential. It helps he found a nice situation with OKC too. Still only 20 years old, things are looking up.
86. Donte DiVincenzo 21 years, 10 months "Filthy. Kids gonna be really good." Has shown flashes, is a nice role player, and helps the Bucks when he is on the floor. He has a while to go but we've seen he has the clutch gene and honestly he even looks a little better than I expected so far.
85. Jerome Robinson 21 years, 9 months "I think sending him to the G-League was a great idea and with the way he's playing there I think its only a matter of time before he starts getting regular minutes with the Team." Robinson has talent, is just on a team that literally goes 15 deep. He has killed it in the G-League and I'm still high on his potential as a solid role player.
84. Josh Okogie 20 years, 3 months "Let's just keep leaving him on the bench right, Thibs!?!?" TWOLVES fans are begging for him to play, he does have a ways to go in terms of offensive efficiency. But the ridiculous athleticism and IQ for his age can't be denied.
83. Harry Giles 20 years, 7 months "Its even more impressive when you realize dude basically spent 2 years on the shelf. Barely played in his year in college and was red shirted last season. He is doing wayyyyyyyyyy better than i thought he would be." There is some serious talent here. Finally 100% healthy, still under 21 years old, and there are some plays he makes that are jaw dropping. Also put up 30 in the G-League last night. I'm excited to see how he develops.
82. Emmanuel Mudiay 22 years, 8 months "So glad to see him doing so well this season." Surprised? Let's see how the rest of the season goes but it's been a big plus for Mudiay this year. He's still 22, the athleticism has always been there. What's changed is his offensive efficiency has skyrocketed. Shooting 54% from inside the 3, and his long range shot is at least respectable now. I'll be following, this is a surprising rebound.
81. Kevin Knox 19 years, 3 months "This kid is a fucking stud" He has a while to go. But let's remember: still the age of a college freshman, ridiculous physical skills, and has shown flashes of potential. It's more potential right now, but I have my hopes up.
80. Trey Lyles 23 years, 0 months "Projects as a solid scorer off the bench going forward, nothing more, nothing less" Kind of crazy he just turned 23. His efficiency needs to improve but he has very solid long term potential as a stretch 4.
79. Elie Okobo 21 years, 1 month "I think as he gets more time under his belt, Okobo will show us more flashes of his offensive potential." He's getting his chance now and I like the early results. A flashy player to watch that has international hype being from France. We'll see how much Phoenix trusts him now.
78. Ryan Arcidiacono 24 years, 8 months "That boi got heart" A late riser, but he's got talent. Surprisingly flashy play and efficient shooting, barely cracks the under 25 threshold but I could see him being a solid 2nd string PG for a while.
77. Rondae Hollis-Jefferson 23 years, 10 months "I think he play a draymond kind of role as a super small ball 4, from the highlights I've seen he's a good playmaker and hustler" The only Net to crack my top 100 last year, has regressed a bit but still under 24 and in my overall top 125 still. Solid long term defensive potential.
76. Elfrid Payton 24 years, 9 months "I seriously think he can improve as a shooter now that he removed the mop from his head." In the little time he's seen the floor this season there has been promise. With 9/5/5 averages, and increased efficiency. But he's had injury issues, and about to turn 25 years old, the time for potential is over. But if he can stay healthy I think he can be solid.
75. Tyus Jones 22 years, 6 months "He's underrated outside this sub and overrated on it" Maybe a surprise to some seeing him this high. He's in an odd situation with the rise of DROSE. But despite a bad season in terms of shooting efficiency so far, the team still does good with him on the floor and I still really like his potential as a long term PG just maybe in a different situation.
74. Taurean Prince 24 years, 8 months "IMO he’ll be fine, consistency will come with age. Very promising player." He has talent. As a 6th man on a playoff team I think he would be stellar. The man can score, he's proven that, and as he's about to turn 25 he should have a nice role in the NBA going forward.
73. Juancho Hernangomez 23 years, 2 months "Juancho’s been looking solid on both ends of the floor this season" After having mono last year, Juancho has bounced back in a big way with 9 PPG and shooting 46% from downtown. He's a fun player to watch, has low key international hype, and I'm interested to see how he develops.
72. Dillon Brooks 22 years, 10 months "Great hustle. Good sportsman. Works for his points." He's been injured for a good portion of this year, but Brooks balled out last year and has shown potential to be a fun role player to watch. From Canada, and still just 22.
71. Luke Kennard 22 years, 5 months "He's overshadowed by the fact that we missed on Mitchell, but I think we got ourselves a stud. He's going to be in the league for a while." Kennard like Brooks has been injured most of this year, but word is he's about to return and he showed some exciting potential last year. He's a very good scorer and the Pistons could use him right now.
70. Josh Jackson 21 years, 9 months "hes shown actual promise in the past, so unlike bender i wouldnt write him as a bust yet" Josh Jackson has talent, he hasn't regressed, is just in a weird chemistry situation and the Suns should probably trade him because he has value and they can get something to fit their long term plans more in return. Not sure about star potential but he has talent for sure.
69. Kris Dunn 24 years, 8 months "Dunn is a great defender and is a very good playmaker" There was a thread this summer where one asked if LaVine or Dunn was better. 95% of the posters said Dunn. Interesting, anyways Dunn showed promise last year he probably won't be a star but there is very nice potential here and that being said I could see him being the type to hit his prime later in his career ala Billups/Lowry.
68. Josh Hart 23 years, 8 months "IMO Josh Hart looks like he can become one of the best 2 way shooting guards in the league" Hart is an odd man out ish on this Lakers team, but he's improved in his 2nd year. Efficient, nice basketball IQ, he'll be in the league a while.
67. Kelly Oubre Jr. 22 years, 11 months "He has a future in the NBA for sure , the length , the shooting , the defensive potential. It’s just a matter of how good he’ll be ." Oubre Jr. has scored 12 PPG this year and last. His efficiency needs to improve, but he's an exciting player to watch and has an interesting personality.
66. Bobby Portis 23 years, 9 months "He'll get a crazy offer this summer" My number 102 player last season, and was in my top 100 before getting injured. Lauri is the big name, but Portis is young with very nice talent. 13/7 averages last year and as the quote says he is probably getting paid this offseason.
65. Kevin Huerter 20 years, 3 months "Kyle Korver except he dunks twice a year instead of once." He has rookie struggles, he needs to put on weight. That all being said, a 20 year old shooting 40% from 3 on a high volume of shots for damn sure has a nice future in the NBA. I really, really like his potential.
64. Monte Morris 23 years, 5 months "POINT GAWD" Turns the ball over at an absurdly low rate, and is starting to make a big name for himself. His stock has been trending up the whole season and doesn't look like that is slowing down anytime soon. He has skills that can enable to him to be a solid PG for a very long time.
63. Malik Monk 20 years, 9 months "Monk has the ceiling of a freak athlete Lou Williams. Dude is a walking bucket and will be a great player as long as he isn't a sieve on defense" His teammates love him, the team is high on his potential, I am too still honestly. But only minor progression from his rookie season so far. Keep in mind he still isn't 21 but my hopes were a bit higher for this season.
62. Stanley Johnson 22 years, 6 months "Although I thought he would be a lot better in the NBA, I don’t really consider him a bust since he’s still having a decent career." One very under the radar player this year is SJ. Yes he has not lived up to the hype but he's having the best season of his career right now. His offensive efficiency has improved, still 22, a role player for a winning Pistons team, Dwayne Casey has clearly done wonders with him, and low key he's one of the most popular NBA players among other players. There is still potential to be reached here, and this season has been good.
61. Zach Collins 21 years, 0 months "Hes raw right now. But, he is already a pretty good defender. Hes going to hopefully pan out to a good modern center. Has got three point range, and has a pretty high defensive ceiling." Improvement has been made in his sophomore season. He still can be inconsistent, but just turned 21 years old and there is some serious long term potential here.
60. Fred VanVleet 24 years, 9 months "These next two years I feel like he is going to prove a lot and earn a big next contract" Barely cracking the age threshold, but VanVleet is such a fun NBA story. Undrafted player who proved himself through hard work and is making 9 million a year now Was my number 100 player last year, and is a crucial role player for the best team in the East.
59. Marcus Smart 24 years, 8 months "Smart embodies "winning plays" in such a beautiful way. If there was ever an argument to be made for watching the game over looking at the box score, he'd be in the top-tier of examples." One of those "damn he's still under 25?". But he was a top 100 player last year and is having his best season in terms of shooting efficiency right now. Has carved a nice role for himself on the Celtics, and the team recognized this by giving him an extension.
58. Markelle Fultz 20 years, 6 months "he showed the physical and skill ability in college to at the very least be a serviceable role player." Here we go. The number 1 hype is still there, has shown small progression when on the floor, still under legal drinking age. Whether it's with Philly or elsewhere, I'm interested to see how this plays out.
57. Jakob Poeltl 23 years, 1 month "Ah this post made me remember we had to give up Jak. :( man I really liked him" With the Spurs struggles, I can see them giving Poeltl a bigger role. He was a top 140 player last year and has nice long term potential to be a solid center. If he gets minutes I can see him impressing.
56. Terry Rozier 24 years, 8 months "he still has a lot of upside at 24 years old and he has proved that he can be a beast when given a feature role." I see a talented player who probably fits better as a starter than a 2nd string player. The catch is, would anyone be willing to give him that chance? Last year's playoffs are still fresh on my mind.
55. Landry Shamet 21 years, 8 months "he's a young JJ with better defense and ball handling in the making, and he's learning from the man himself." Shamet got stuck in the perfect situation at the right time for him to develop. I've always liked his potential 2-3 years from now, but with how things have played out that potential is even higher now.
54. Allonzo Trier 22 years, 10 months "Trier reminding me of Donovan Mitchell." He's fun, in a big market, and although inconsistent man he has talent. Undrafted and with his flashy style of play makes him a fan favorite.
53. Justise Winslow 22 years, 8 months "Let’s gooo!!!! So happy to have Winslow back. 22 year old with so much potential." The stats don't look pretty, and the efficiency does need to improve. But I'm seeing progression in other areas, still only 22, has moved up my overall ranking, and I can see him having a big start to 2019.
52. Dario Saric 24 years, 7 months "He’s going to be an elite role player" Close to 25, he's in a new environment and I like the results so far. He's an excellent fit off the Minnesota bench. Maybe not the number 53 player I had him last year but he can be a top 100 talent for a while.
51. Mitchell Robinson 20 years, 8 months "He can run the floor, has great leaping ability and combine that with his length and wingspan, you'll have a problem." There is serious, serious potential here to become DeAndre Jordan 2.0 with better shooting. He has a long way to go but his ceiling is the sky.
50. Mikal Bridges 22 years, 3 months "Yeah I think purely from a basketball perspective Phoenix is a great spot for Bridges." Bridges is in a slump right now but he has shown enough to where we can see the man has talent. Unlike some of the other recent players Phoenix has drafted I can see him developing over time and by the time he's still on this list in 2 years could be much higher.
49. OG Anunoby 21 years, 4 months "Floor: solid defender, good athlete Likely: Great 3 & D Ceiling: one of the 3 or so best defenders in the league. His length and size is crazy." Anunoby is barely legal drinking age, is a role player for the best team in the East, and gets to learn from Kawhi. His shooting efficiency has slumped (and 31% FT is just weird) but there is a lot to like long term here.
48. Aaron Holiday 22 years, 2 months "Good starter potential." I'm going out on a limb with this one. With Indiana's situation, he's probably the starting PG next year. And from recently cracking the rotation, you can see the NBA genes. He isn't going to be as good as Jrue. But, I see a lot of Jeff Teague in him. Which is a solid top 100 player ceiling with maybe a random all star game.
47. Miles Bridges 20 years, 8 months "dude has a mean stroke and is mad athletic" It's weird to think Bridges is still under 21 since he wasn't a one and done, but he has serious athleticism and talent. I would not be surprised to see him in the dunk contest. But other than that, he's been efficient from the floor and has a surprisingly decent long range shot. The Hornets got good value where they picked him even though it wasn't highly regarded at the time.
46. John Collins 21 years, 2 months "Young, athletic, rebounds, blocks shots, shows promise in switching on to guards, can hit the open three, makes freethrows" Was injured the first month, but averaging 15/7 since returning with 70% from inside the 3 point line. Just turned legal drinking age, he has a while to go but there's some serious potential here by the time he's 23/24.
45. Jusuf Nurkic 24 years, 3 months "If Nurkic can extend his range, he’ll have a long career ahead of him." Another player surprisingly still under 25, but Nurkic has improved this year and is playing at the level he was at when he had ridiculous hype after the 2017 trade deadline. He has extended his range, and there is potential here to progress into a top 30 overall type talent.
44. Jonathan Isaac 21 years, 1 month "Gonna be an animal if he stays healthy" Isaac still has a long way to go. That being said, he has stayed mostly healthy this year, has progressed, and has ridiculous potential. If his offense (which has been improving. 16 + 15 points 2 of the last 3 games) can meet his defensive potential that is scary.
43. Bam Adebayo 21 years, 4 months "I love me some BAM he has the potential to be the best perimeter defending big in the league. No way Miami should give him up" Whiteside is the obvious starter, but Bam has low key improved a ton so far. Solid defense, improved efficiency, respectable FT shooter, crazy athletic. He can be a top 100 player next year if he continues to progress at this rate.
42. Lonnie Walker IV 19 years, 11 months "Super athletic, good defender in college" This is a risky spot and an out there prediction especially for a player who hasn't played at all this season yet. I just have a really good feeling about this one. Pop can do wonders with him. It might not happen this year or next but as long as he stays healthy he'll be a force by the time he's 23/24 and he also has a marketable personality.
41. Dennis Smith Jr. 21 years, 0 months "He's got the athleticism/talent and the clear support of his organization." He's low key behind the other back court member plus another PG from his class that has improved dramatically, but DSJ has improved. His efficiency is better and he for sure can be the long term PG for Dallas with how things look right now.
40. Kyle Kuzma 23 years, 4 months "If he can play average defense he'll be good but Idk about top 20-30" This is a player who has basically been a top 100 talent since entering the NBA. That shouldn't be understated. Despite being a rookie last year, he's still I guess older than you think (6 months older than 2015 draft pick Justise Winslow). But he's making shots, and with LeBron, he's probably a consensus top 100 player for a while.
39. Myles Turner 22 years, 8 months "He can defend, and he can shoot." The narrative on Turner has been weird, because the hype was him being a potential top 25 player at just 21 years old. And he got a big contract from Indiana. And despite the hype from another Indiana big man that's higher on the list, Turner has for real talent. There are some games where he looks ridiculous and he's averaging 2.6 BPG. I have him number 72 overall in the NBA currently and he hasn't really ever fallen out of the top 80 the last year and a half. He might not be a star but the dude is good.
38. Jabari Parker 23 years, 8 months "He has incredible potential, he's a hometown kid, he's only 23 and he's proven he can score at a high level in the NBA." I still have high hopes for Jabari in his hometown. The start to the season was slow, but he's turned it on with 16/7 averages and is currently my number 91 overall player. The Bulls will struggle this year, but if he continues to have success + stays healthy + add another high lotto pick to the mix next year and he'll still be only 24 in a big contract year.
37. Gary Harris 24 years, 2 months "Gary Harris is the fucking man and is one of my favorite players to watch." Harris has improved every year, and less than a year away from 25 his future looks bright. 17 PPG for a successful Nuggets team, and he doesn't have a flashy name but dude is going to be solid for years to come.
36. Andrew Wiggins 23 years, 9 months "Wiggins is an enigma to me." This is an interesting one. A former number 1 pick, has been a top 100 player since entering the NBA, but has never reached his full potential to where we would expect him to be top 5 on a list like this. His offensive woes don't help either and he has slightly regressed from last year. The good: his defense has been nice (career high 1.5 SPG) and he usually helps his team on the floor more than hurting them. With the new look Timberwolves, and still being shy of 24, there is still hope in terms of potential but that hope is getting smaller.
35. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 20 years, 4 months He looked really poised out there, and is already good at finishing thru contact. Already starting for Doc Rivers, and is already in my overall top 150. I am interested to see what his long term potential is, but it looks really good right now.
34. Buddy Hield 24 years, 11 months "Buddy has been consistently getting better and better throughout his time with the Kings." Buddy Hield is a perfect example on why you shouldn't give up on potential (unless it's an Anthony Bennett out of NBA situation) until the 25 mark. Hield improved over time and now just shy of 25 is balling and in my overall top 100. 18 PPG on efficient shooting, he's limited in other areas but the potential he had as a scorer going into the draft 2 years ago is starting to come together.
33. Julius Randle 24 years, 0 months "Lol my god, if we could have kept him for 9 mil a year" Who would have guessed in 2014 Randle would be higher on a list like this than Wiggins or Parker? That's where we are at. Randle is having his best season yet averaging 18/9 and is an extremely fun player to watch. Maybe not a star but a top 50 talent for the next few years at least if healthy.
32. Collin Sexton 19 years, 10 months "He's a rookie, he has potential and he'll probably get to it." I don't think this sub has ever seen a narrative change so quick. He has a while to go but the scoring potential is for real and he's not even 20. For sure can be the face of the Cavs franchise and could be a top 100 talent by the time he is 21.
31. Caris LeVert 24 years, 3 months "I fucking love Levert." I saw enough before he got injured to put him this high, and I think he'll come back fine. He has talent, and if he can stay healthy is a top 75 player for the next few years.
30. Jaylen Brown 22 years, 1 month "Jaylen is already a damn good 3 point shooter which we all thought was going to be a project." An obvious slow start to the season, but was a top 50 player last year at 21 years old and I've seen enough to say he has clear long term potential and talent. He'll bounce back.
29. Clint Capela 24 years, 6 months "I really think that Capela deserved to be last season MIP" Capela has been a low key player who has improved every year and right now is averaging 18/12. He has ridiculous athleticism and underrated IQ. If healthy he can be a consistent top 25-35 player for the next 3-4 years.
28. Montrezl Harrell 24 years, 10 months "MONTREZL HARRELL IS THE MOST IMPORTANT CLIPPER" Absolutely maybe a surprise to some him being this high, but he is the biggest reason for the Clippers success. Probably will never be a star but he has a role as a very exciting player going forward. Is already one of the best role players in the NBA.
27. Wendell Carter Jr 19 years, 7 months "Comped him to Horford pre-draft, think he's not a flashy option, but he's solid and has relatively low bust potential." The reddit comment is fair. I don't think he'll ever be a star but by the time he's 21/22 he could already be a top 50 player if he progresses well enough.
26. Jarrett Allen 20 years, 7 months "Jarrett Allen looks like an ABA player transported to the modern day." Allen reminds me a ton of Myles Turner at the same age. He has top 25 potential just depends how bad he wants it. Difference between him and Turner, is Turner is at his floor right now and the jury is still out on if Allen can reach his ceiling. He's progressed in year 2 so far which is a good sign.
25. D'Angelo Russell 22 years, 9 months "He has potential to be a top 10 player IMO. He has shown great flashes when not injured and honestly I think the comments about his work ethic by reddit users are overstated." This is an interesting one. He's improved, there are some games where he looks insane (38/8/8 vs. Philly last week). Then he shoots 6-25 vs. Utah the next game. 18/6/4 averages, still only 22, I'm rooting for him and there's still a very outside shot he can be a superstar but the clock is ticking.
24. Jamal Murray 21 years, 9 months "He's a god I think he has massive room to grow" The 48 point game showed a glimpse at what could be. I have him number 55 overall right now, up from 74 last year. He still needs to be more consistent but the man has talent and is a flashy, fun player to watch.
23. Mohamed Bamba 20 years, 6 months "This man can hit a three, athletic, rebounding, blocks" The star power is already there with a top 10 billboard song named after him. There is ridiculous potential, although we are only getting it in doses right now. Vucevic having a career year complicates things as well. Interested to see what happens here, but Rudy Gobert with a 3 point shot absolutely is possible.
22. Donovan Mitchell 22 years, 2 months "absolute ceiling? I see a smaller wade that makes up for the size" Slow start to the year but he's looked better since coming back from injury. Having a top 25 player overall rookie season put high expectations that are hard to match, but if healthy he's going to be a stud long term.
21. Aaron Gordon 23 years, 2 months "has improved every year in the NBA and hasn’t hit his full potential yet." I'm probably higher on AG than most on this sub, but at still 23 years old with steady progression (career high FG PCT and 3 PT PCT this year) with the ridiculous athleticism to go along I am very interested to see how he is at 25/26 years old if he continues to progress.
20. Pascal Siakam 24 years, 7 months "he might be the favorite for MIP right now" Just under the 25 threshold, Siakam has started to make a serious name for himself. With 15/7 averages, to combine with ridiculous efficiency + IQ on the best team in the East, with continued progression Siakam could be a top 25 talent for the next few years. Can he reach that? We'll see but the potential is there.
19. Lauri Markkanen 21 years, 6 months "Superstar ceiling. Personally I think he'll be a long term starter and an all star for a few years but he has the tools to be among the NBA's elite if he maxes out his potential." Making his debut tonight, I'm excited to see how Lauri does in his sophomore campaign. His return is absolutely huge for Chicago and he showed a ton of potential year 1. His ceiling is a superstar and we'll see how close he can get there in year 2.
18. Marvin Bagley III 19 years, 8 months "The talent is there. As his body develops he can be really good. As long as the kings dont let him/want him taking perimeter shots this early in his career" 20/17 vs. Golden State is serious bad man stuff. Dude is just scratching the surface and with his stock trending up he could be close to a top 100 player by the time he's 20.
17. Domantas Sabonis 22 years, 6 months "One of the most underrated players in the game" Domantas Sabonis has superstar potential. He is in my top 50 overall currently, his IQ is insane, and if he continues to develop I'm not even kidding he could be a top 15 player by the time he's not eligible for this list anymore.
16. Brandon Ingram 21 years, 2 months "Amazing talent. That young man is seriously good." He's on the Lakers. With LeBron. With that comes more criticism. Still easy to forget he's barely legal drinking age, scoring 16 PPG, and has improved as the season has progressed. Things are looking up.
15. Zach LaVine 23 years, 8 months "Always thought he had the potential to be an offensive juggernaut. His jumpshot is a thing of beauty. Athleticism that makes everything he does look effortless. Excellent at getting to the rim." Efficiency needs to improve, but as the season has continued it's clear his early season start wasn't a fluke. With crazy athleticism and an exciting game in a big market, I am very interested to see how the new look LaVine pairs with Lauri.
14. Jaren Jackson Jr. 19 years, 2 months "This kid is more polished than my grandad's leather shoes." The youngest player on this list is already in the top 15. He has serious, serious long term potential and as a Grizzlies fan that has me excited. Stays healthy, and I can't imagine how he could look at 21.
13. Lonzo Ball 21 years, 1 month "He makes some great flashy defensive plays" He has a long way to go but the potential is there, he has ridiculous court vision, a nice all around game, and being in the big LA market gives him obvious star power if he makes it big. I am still high on his potential as shown by this ranking.
12. Trae Young 20 years, 2 months "Trae next stephen curry book it" Easily one of the most polarizing players on this sub, but his star power is for real. He's shown flashes of ridiculous potential, the Hawks are in a clear rebuild it's not happening this year. But within the next 2-3 years this guy could seriously be dangerous.
11. Karl-Anthony Towns 23 years, 0 months "One of the most valuable players in the league" Having just turned 23, with Jimmy Butler now gone, the time is now for him to start reaching his full potential. He's shown glimpses of what could be. Will he reach it? We'll see but what we can't argue now is that he's sure as hell going to have the opportunity.
10. Kristaps Porzingis 23 years, 3 months "missing this guy so much" Porzingis cracks the top 10. Injured still, but being in the New York market the star potential is still there and that was booming before he got injured. The Knicks are the right kind of bad, and hopefully they can get lucky in the lottery to get another star to mix with him.
9. DeAndre Ayton 20 years, 4 months "Dude reminds me of a young LSU Shaq" Ayton was an immediate top 70 player from the first time he stepped on the floor. That type of talent is very, very rare. This year has been a struggle for the team but he's a walking double-double and with his age the potential is still sky high.
8. De'Aaron Fox 20 years, 11 months "Does anyone disagree that at this point so far, he's the best PG from his draft class?" When you really think about it, what he's doing at 20 years old as a point guard is rarely seen. His career has taken a sophomore jump and him (+ the potential development of Bagley) has given Kings something to be excited about for the first time in a very long time.
7. Ben Simmons 22 years, 4 months "Simmons, if he tried, could be a high 20’s scorer, and he’s already a dub elite defender" Already a big Hollywood name dating Kendall Jenner, and a unique all around game, we'll see if he can reach his ultimate ceiling but the hype + top 25 talent is already there.
6. Jayson Tatum 20 years, 8 months "Tatum is gonna be a star" Fans screamed overrated on this sub last year. He had elite efficiency but we wondered if he could do it on a higher volume of shots. He's scoring 16 ppg and still has near elite efficiency. Not the flashiest player but dude is leading Boston into the future and if healthy will be the team's best player in 2020.
5. Nikola Jokic 23 years, 9 months "He’s so skilled just not that athletic but his skills are unreal like all nba level" One of the most unique centers in NBA history, we have yet to see how far he can lead this Nuggets team in the playoffs but the skills are absurd.
4. Devin Booker 22 years, 1 month "Destined for stardom if he keeps this up and the Suns start to win games." A ridiculous offensive player, fun to watch, the Suns aren't winning yet but at this rate by the time he's 24 years old my bet is on us saying a different tune about Booker + the Suns.
3. Luka Doncic 19 years, 9 months "Hot take: Luka Doncic is good." Doncic has clearly reached the hype so far if not exceeded it. He has the highest IQ for a teenager in the NBA since LeBron. The star power is there. He is already entering top 50 overall territory so the expectations have been set early on on his career. So far so good.
2. Joel Embiid 24 years, 8 months "I really hope he stays healthy for the rest of his career. Dude is a beast and one of the most enjoyable players to watch right now." This is what the process was for: It was a long process, especially for Embiid not playing a single game for 2.5 years after being drafted. But it paid off, Embiid is an absolute monster, a top 5 overall player right now. On the verge of 25, things are looking up.
1. Giannis Antetokounmpo 23 years, 11 months "Dude is literally unstoppable at the rim" An incredible rise to superstardom, my favorite for MVP, and my current number 1 overall player in the NBA. How he's developed has been nothing short of incredible to see and he has become one of the NBA's most surprising superstars in history.

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2018.10.11 20:47 Jakefiz [OC] Roasting Every Single NBA Team

Atlanta: Honestly the only compliment I can give you guys is your astounding ability to be consistently mediocre. But at least your fans got to experience the feeling of being dark horse contenders before Lebron shattered your hopes and dreams and sent you back to basketball hell. Where you have been for your entire existence in Atlanta. Don't lose hope now, Trading down for Trae Young because you saw the name “Curry” in the scouting report when you could have gotten Doncic certainly won't come back to bite you… right?

Boston: Bill Russell won you 11 championships and your city STILL treated him like shit. Russell beating the same nine teams during the stone age of basketball is the only reason you get to hold a candle to the Lakers in the “best franchise” debate. Honestly if your city wasn't so god damn racist you might have been able to attract free agents and have more than one championship in 30 years.

Brooklyn: Oh man. I could go the easy route but I’m not gonna. You guys are paying 18 million dollars a year to a shooter that doesn't even shoot the ball. And another 18 million for 10 seconds of Dwight Howard. How do you exist in the same city as the Knicks and still be the 2nd place team. I honestly don't know or care for what future your team has. Maybe you'll make the playoffs in the next 10 years? Next.

Charlotte: The only NBA record you've ever broken is the lowest winning percentage. Not even getting your old name back and a slick rebrand can save your team. Your team is a factory of suck that MJ uses to pad real contenders against Lebron to protect his own legacy. Seriously. When you cant put together a playoff team with Kemba Walker in the fucking East you might as well start tanking. But even if you do tank, MJ has an eye for talent like I have an eye for women’s hygiene products.

Chicago: Your last championship was over 20 years ago. No really, it's actually been that long. I don't even know what your team is. Your roster requires a PhD to fully explain it. For a team that's been crushed by Derrick Rose's ACL problems, its interesting to bank your future in two players with ACL problems. Enjoy the lottery for the foreseeable future.

Cleveland: Honestly basketball is the least of your concerns. Lebron James was your entire economy, what the fuck are you gonna do now? My advice, move the fuck out of Cleveland before it all comes crashing down and be a Laker fan until Lebron retires. At least you have the up and coming Browns to distract from your city hitting bankruptcy, im sure investing your happiness in that will turn out nicely.

Dallas: If it wasn't for Dirk you’d be a bottom feeding team with the Hornets and the Clippers. Male Mavs fans, good luck justifying your fandom to your date after she finds about about what went on in the front office for years…

Denver: Denver, Denver, Denver… I don't think anyone hates your team more than your own fans. Every year you look poised to make the playoffs and every year you leave them in crushing disappointment. But things will be different this year! You added IT, and you're gonna average 120 points a night. But averaging 120 points doesn't really matter when youre gonna be giving up 140. Not a single person on your roster plays defense outside of Will Barton. Don't place your bets on making the playoffs this year, or next year.

Detroit: Oh yeah, the Pistons. I forgot about your team. And so did everyone else. Gotta admit trading your only young asset for Blake Griffin's ludacris contract in a hail mary attempt to sell tickets in your unnecessary new stadium is a ballsy move that, shocker, did not pay off. On top of that you have to live with taking Luke Kennard right before Donovan Mitchell for the rest of your lives. Enjoy NBA no man's land. Maybe you'll crack an 8 seed if you get more than 20 healthy games of Blake Griffin.

Houston: I can think of 27 reasons why I hate your team. All your memorable playoff moments this decade ended in you losing. Lillard, Ginobili, and now the beautiful chaos that was Game 7 of the conference finals this year. Nice offseason by the way. Because everyone in America was definitely thinking the same thing after you lost game 7. “If only the Rockets had Carmelo”

Indiana: Ok be honest. Does the phrase “Defending champion Indiana Pacers” sound weird to you? Your team was never meant to be. You may have had an overachieving season but hold on to that happiness as long as you can because you have a long long loooooooong ways to go before you can say your team has a chance of becoming contenders. Your most memorable moment in franchise history is Ron Artest decking an out of shape Detroit fan, which I still watch weekly. So thank you for bringing us that masterpiece.

LA Clippers: It's not everyday you get to call yourself a fan of the worst franchise in sports. Seriously, how do you live in a market like LA and still suck this bad for so long. I would feel bad for your fans but you don't have any. Who in the city of Los Angeles with half a brain cell would even consider being a Clippers fan over the Lakers? That's like choosing between having a glass of top shelf, high class pinot noir and having donald sterling piss in your mouth. Why would anyone want to do that to themselves? Your franchise is a joke and doesn't deserve to call themselves a team. Just please for the love of god move to Seattle.

LA Lakers: Welcome back to relevancy. No one missed you. I cant imagine what its like to be a Lakers fan. To have instant claim to every big free agent. To have super teams handed to you on a silver platter. All while having to sit through this nightmare of a decade. You better hope lebron is actually a cyborg because when he declines, you dont have much else to fall back on. But for now, put away your warriors jersey, cuz lake show is finally back.

Memphis: Remember when you were good? That came and went faster than Mike Conley's all-star campaign. But hey, best case scenario you might luck out with those ping pong balls and get the 11th pick. Better hope JJ Jr is a superstar or you're gonna be stuck in purgatory for the foreseeable future. Also. Chandler Parsons. That is all.

Miami: Oof. Imagine having all your cap space tied up to Hassan Whiteside, Goran Dragic, and Tyler Johnson. No disrespect to Goran, but if he's the best player on your team then I'm not sure what you do now. But if you’re a heat fan you don't really care about your future because you now get to endure a whole season of the Dwayne Wade farewell tour. Enjoy many many years of reminiscing and living in the past because you certainly don't have a future to look forward to.

Milwaukee: You managed to fool a foreign superstar into staying in your god forsaken city so you at least did that right. Good luck getting talent around Giannis after Sterling Brown got the ol’ Wisconsin welcome from the Milwaukee police department. Not a good look Bucks, not a good look at all. Also, kids that were born the last time you won a playoff series are graduating high school this year. Don't forget to wish them congratulations.

Minnesota: Ahh, remember when your team was up and coming with a bright future? Those were the days. Too bad Thibs had to come and ruin everything. How you managed to even have a future in Siberia is beyond me. All I know now is your one opportunity per 20 years of maybe being a contender has now been squandered by a sweaty angry bald man that really likes Gorgei Dieng. And now, breaking news, the best player that has suited up for your team since KG just went on a practice tirade completely destroying the very fabric of your team’s existence. That’s always a good sign of a well run franchise. I feel genuinely sorry for your fans that not only have to live in Minnesota, but root for this team.

New Orleans: Another team that had a future at one point. AD/Boogie was the opportunity of a lifetime. And last year was the best basketball your team had ever played. But hope you enjoyed it because these next few years are going to be Anthony Davis stat pads so he can get paid by a loooong list of teams. One of those teams being the Golden State Warriors.

OKC: You guys drafted 3 MVPS in three straight seasons and somehow managed to keep the one that got cooked by a rookie. Sure you may have convinced Paul George to stay, but as long as Joe Ingles is in the league, “Playoff P” will disappear faster than this team’s title hopes.

New York: This franchise is an enigma. I have come to the conclusion that there is a basketball curse set on the city of New York. How do you have two franchises in the second biggest market and have them both suck? The only guy that was rumored to have an interest in signing there also believed the earth was flat. Why on this flat earth would anyone want the burden of saving this pathetic franchise? I think we found a way to beat the Warriors this year. Have them all wear Knicks jerseys and play at Madison Square Garden for 40 games out of the year.

Orlando: Oh boy. Nobody’s favorite team. Honestly though, your existence is appreciated because you’re pretty much a firesale of young talent that needs to get the fuck out of your organization to succeed. I will always put money on players breaking out the second they leave the largest tourist trap in the world. If I were entering the draft and my choices were the Orlando Magic and signing in Europe with BBB, I’d learn Lithuanian faster than your team’s hopes for a winning season.

Philadelphia: Please tell me how much is hurts to be a Sixers fan. To tank for years only to have Boston do it way better without the embarrassment. To have your GM be the laughing stock of the entire NBA. To use your number one pick in one of the most stacked drafts in the past decade on a guy that forgot how to shoot. Things might be looking up right now sure, but you got dismantled by Boston who were missing 2 all-stars. But that’s okay, you gotta trust the process of losing to Boston every year for the next ten years.

Phoenix: Honestly the biggest accomplishment you have had in the past 5 years is losing by 48 instead of 50 on your 50th home opener. But hey, at least you got better this season. I predict you win 26 games this year instead of 21. Your team hasn’t been fun to watch since the D’Antoni era. And that was 10 years ago now. You snuck a nice season in there in 2014 but somehow missed the playoffs with 48 wins. Now you’re stuck believing that since Booker is the only player that can put a ball in a basket, he’s suddenly the second coming of Kobe. Well get ready to feel like you did when you found out Santa wasn’t real, because you are in for a very, very rude awakening. Have fun being the 4th, maybe 5th best young core in the league.

Portland: You think I’m going easy on my hometown team? You thought wrong. There needs to be some changes to this organization. Firstly, include blood pressure meds with every season ticket package. They’re gonna need them if they are going to be watching this team all season. Also, make Damian Lillard mayor, dictator, and emperor of Portland. Because there is no reason for him to be this loyal to us, unless he is trying to conquer us. Speaking of players, what the fuck are we trying to do here. Evan Turner might be the worst rotation player in the NBA. And his contract is worth 14 Demarcus Cousins. Everyone’s asshole in the city of Portland collectively clenches whenever Aminu dribbles the ball. And Harkless is only serviceable when he “feels like it”. Speaking of feelings, what better representation of the city of Portland than a 7ft jacked white guy with the emotional fragility of a teenage they/them tumblr girl. Imagine letting Ed Davis go for a quarter of the worth of one year of Meyers Leonard. That is the reality us Blazer fans live with every day. But that’s okay. At least we have our first round picks that Neil will continue to use on project white guys that I wouldn’t even let take my daughter to prom let alone trust with the future of my franchise. This team is single handedly responsible for my heart attack that I will have at age 50.

Sacramento: Kings fans, real question, why do you watch this team? I mean, even if you somehow put together a championship team, not even the NBA will let you win. So what's the point? Are you all masochists? Do you find some sick enjoyment watching your media team and announcers have to sell you this horrible product night in and night out? How many poor decisions will it take for your owner to be like, “You know, maybe Vlade doesn’t really know what he’s doing.” I could write a book on all the mistakes he has made. But it’s 3AM and I need to get through the rest of this. If you are interested in the dumpster fire of a franchise that is the Sacramento Kings, there are plenty, PLENTY of youtube videos on it.
San Antonio: You feel that? That feeling in the pit of your stomach? That dark depressing feeling that is permanently there? That’s mediocrity. Most of you aren’t even old enough to remember a time when the Spurs were mediocre. So welcome to humanity, Spurs fans. I hope you enjoy telling your grandkids about Tim Duncan, because there won't be anything near as happy to talk about for the remainder of your meaningless existence on this planet. You smashed the “Small market success” piggy bank and used up all your happiness for multiple lifetimes. Soak in these last few Pop years while you can.
Toronto: Imagine winning almost 60 games and having zero credibility as even a finals contender, let alone championship contender. This is the story of the Lebronto Raptors. “But, But Lebrons gone now! And we have Kawhi! Things will be different this year!” Well unless there’s a massive shift in tectonic plates, or global warming speeds up 10000% and Hollywood packs up and moves to fucking Canada, I don't expect your reign of being a good regular season team to last much longer. Your only conceivable hope of a championship this year is for Brad Stevens to turn into a vegetable, KD to get suspended for fighting a high schooler, and Draymond to snap his two-tone Malone to a minor. Maybe then you’ll have a chance. Most likely scenario? Crushing playoff disappointment and Kawhi to leave your shitty country for LA. Have fun this year while you can.
Utah: Honestly I don't have a lot of bad things to say about you. Other than the biggest moment in your franchise is the Michael Jordan shot. Yeah, you know what one I’m talking about. You’ve got a fun team. All you need is a superstar free agent to come to your team and maybe you’ll have a chance at a championship. That’s not too bad! All you have to do is convince them to live in Utah! It’s so easy!
Washington: What a lame team you are. I haven’t seen a perennial playoff team have as little confidence in themselves as yours. But this year will be different. I see an exciting year for you guys. I see a 6, maybe 5 seed. And a respectable second round sweep to Toronto or Boston. That’s about as exciting of a year as you can hope. Keep dreaming KD will come one day. He’s sure got a looooot of reasons to.

You may have realized I left one out. Why would I even waste my time? You pompous pricks wouldn’t be offended by anything because you can just point to the eventual championship you have wrapped up at your doorstep already. I don’t think I could hate a team more honestly. You ruined the best league in sports and it seems like you almost feel numb to winning. I just spent 4 hours going through every NBA team and I realized how absolutely hopeless almost every team in the league is aside from fucking Boston and probably the Lakers. Why does the best sport have to have the shittiest league?
Anyways, this is all in good fun. If you’re butthurt about what I said, congrats. You’re feeling exactly what I want you to feel. If you don’t care at all because no matter what I said it wont take away from your inevitable success this year, you’re probably a Warriors fan. And I hate you.
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2018.06.13 20:44 Ghostnappa4 [OC] How many All-Time Top 25 Players are Currently in the League? (longpost)

There was some conversations going around NBA twitter, about two months ago now, about the liklihood of current stars passing the current perceived legends (one I remember specifically was, what's more likely, Harden>Kobe, Steph>Magic, or Durant>Bird). That conversation piqued my interest a ton, I don't think we do a great job of contextualizing non-Lebron stars and so I thought I'd try my hand at just that. To make it something I could tangibly work towards, I narrowed down the idea to "How Many Top 25 Players are in the League", and producing at a high level.
To do that, needed to establish something resembling a consensus All-Time ranking, and I used Simmons Pyramid and top 50 lists from CBS and SI. The point of doing that instead of making my own list from scratch was that the focus of this analysis was contextualizing current players and I was hoping it would save time and prevent people from yelling at me. Ultimately, I basically used those as a framework to get a consensus group of 25 players, and then I put them in tiers (GOATs, Generational Talents, and Greats) from there based on the consulted works and criteria I thought made some sense. All the stats are pulled from Basketball Reference, so shout out to them. There's also pre-80s tiers from Greats and GOATs, just because the stats from that era are so weird and it would make any threshold basically pointless. The descriptions/reqs for each tier aren't supposed to be end all be alls, just a general idea, though I'm sure Kobe being in Tier 3 instead of Tier 2 will bother some people (the cutoff line basically became three titles as The Guy vs two, because I feel like the two title guys are closer to Malone than they are to Duncan). Anyway, another housekeeping note, I listed Wade and Dirk among the established All-Time Top 25 because they're role players at this point, and I wanted to focus on guys still playing at a star level.After the list of 'consensus' top 25 are four sections looking at current players, all focused on different career points and viability. And that's pretty much it, this is long as hell, but covered a lot of ground.
Last note on the formatting, the career profiles are sequenced like:

Player Name

with notations for any top ten ranking within major categories. There are a couple exceptions, Dirk and Havlicek have a line for peak season as well as an extra for playoff peaks just below it, because they had unreal playoff runs that didn't conicide with their regular season peaks that I felt were relevant; and Harden's peak season is a consecutive two years, because I thought it was impressive mostly.
The projections for current players are based on 538s CARMELO model, it projects BPM and RPM (translated into wins), so players on good teams are rewarded and the more games you play in, assuming you're a plus player, the more you're rewarded. The stat doesn't trace production though, it's a plus/minus metric, I'm using it as a baseline for like, for how long and how good is each guy expected to be. Link here to CARMELO
Oh also, I actually ended up with 26, not 25 All-Timers, but I thought that would make the title even more nonsensical than it is and that's why I'm telling you here. On with it forreal now >
Current Consensus All-Time Rankings
Tier 1: Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain
Tier 2: Shaquille O’ Neal, Tim Duncan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson
Tier 3: Kobe Bryant, Hakeem Olajuwon, Karl Malone, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki, Dwayne Wade, John Stockton, Kevin Garnett, David Robinson, Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen, Moses Malone, Julius Erving, John Havlicek, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Bob Pettit
Current Stars With All-Time Careers
Part 1, Already In: Lebron James, Chris Paul, Kevin Durant
Part 2, All-Time Peak but Short on GP: Stephen Curry, James Harden
3 and 4 aren't defintive , but are notable
Part 3, Toss Up: Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook
Part 4, Too Soon to Tell: Giannis Antetokounmpo, Devin Booker, Karl Anthony-Towns, Ben Simmons
From my research I'd say there's at least 5 of the 25 best players ever in the league now, playing at a high level, and possibly as many as 11. Safe bet seems like 8 seems, it's hard to imagine at least one of BookeRuss/KAT/Simmons as well as Davis and Giannis busting hard enough to knock them off the path they've set for themselves and once the Lebron era finishes up the standard will be raised a good amount. This lil paragraph is gonna be posted at the end if you stick around till then.
And for the people who like to read lots of stats and some words, enjoy ~
Pre-80s Tier 1 - GOATs 

Bill Russell

Wilt Chamberlain


Tier 1 - GOATs 1000+ GP, 10x+ All-NBA, 6x+ combined MVP and FMVP, top 5 all-time points and win shares 

Michael Jordan

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Tier 2: Generational Talents 900x+ GP, 4x combined FMVP and MVP, 10x All-NBA 

Tim Duncan

Magic Johnson

Larry Bird

Shaquille O’Neal


Pre-80s Tier 3:Greats 

Oscar Robertson

Jerry West

John Havlicek

Elgin Baylor

Bob Pettit


Tier 3: Greats Any of 1x MVP/double digit All-NBA/top ten in any major category gets at least a look here. Hakeem and Kobe could be up a tier, I just think they're closer to Malone than they are to Duncan, for example. 

Kobe Bryant

Karl Malone

Hakeem Olajuwon

Moses Malone

John Stockton

Charles Barkley

Dirk Nowitzki - Active

Scottie Pippen

Kevin Garnett

Julius Erving - no ABA

Dwyane Wade - Active

Steve Nash

David Robinson


Tier 1: Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain
Tier 2: Shaquille O’ Neal, Tim Duncan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson
Tier 3: Kobe Bryant, Hakeem Olajuwon, Karl Malone, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki, Dwyane Wade, John Stockton, Kevin Garnett, Charles Barkley, Scottie Pippen, Moses Malone, Julius Erving, John Havlicek, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Bob Pettit, David Robinson
Part 1: Already In Self explantory, players who have already put in strong enough careers to be listed among the top 25 ever while still in their relative prime. 

Lebron James

Best Career Comps: Michael Jordan, Karl Malone, Shaq (?)
Current Ranking: Borderline Tier 1/2
Projected Career:
There’s been a ton of ink already spilled on Lebron’s GOAT candidacy and all-time significance, so won’t spend much time here. Two more seasons at roughly his current production and that’s a consensus top 3 all time career, where he’d only be 36 with a chance to get into truly unprecedented levels of sustained dominance. Read Zach Kram’s piece if you want analysis here, it’s basically what I’m doing but more well defined and uniform in every way. Here’s roughly the range of numbers given there (Win Shares estimated):
40k Points All-Time Leader 11k Assists 3rd All-Time 11k Rebounds 260 Win Shares 2nd All-Time
Projected Ranking: Tier 1

Kevin Durant

Best Career Comps: Dwanye Wade, Bob Pettit, Larry Bird
Current Ranking: Low Tier 3
Projected Career:
There have been 29 individual seasons of 30/5/5 averages, move that to 30/7/5.5 and it’s cut to 11 seasons, include a 60%TS qualifier to the search and you’ll find two seasons, Michael Jordan’s ‘88-’89 season and Kevin Durant’s ‘13-’14 season, increase the parameters to Durant’s actual averages of 32.0ppg/7.4rpg/5.5apg/1.3spg on 50/39/87 splits or 63%TS/56%eFG and he stands alone. That is a Tier 1 level peak, one of the 20 or so best seasons ever (maybe that’ll be my next project), but his candidacy is going to have some holes. This year has really strengthened the idea that even if Durant is better that Curry is more important to the Warriors, Durant got that FMVP (two now) and was fantastic in that (those) series, but to date only one (two) title (s) total and only one Finals appearance as “the guy”. I think that matters to an extent, looking at positional rankings he’s chasing Bird, who got three titles and two FMVP, but was no question the guy on all three of those teams. Durant’s career is going to be longer, so he’ll pass Bird statistically at some point within the next three years probably, with the metrics are pretty neck and neck. Once he gets to 900-1100 GP, he’ll be near or at the top of Tier 3 and once he closes in on 1200 he’ll be fringe Tier 2, with Hakeem or Kobe, the real question is how many games he has left. Multiple serious injuries to this point in his career, and it’s easy to forget he’s a legit 7 footer who’s going to be 30 next season, and the durability concerns that generally come with that. CARMELO was pretty spot on with his value this year, overestimated his decline just a touch, and he’s expected to be in the same range next year. After that, his value is projected in the above average wing range, similar to Jaylen Brown, KCP, and Kyle Korver this year, for the following three years; finally, two seasons in the Jeff Green/Buddy Hield range. Assuming he sticks at the 65-70 game range, that could look something like: 70 games at 25.0/6.5/5.0/1.0/1.0, 200 games at 21.5/4.0/5.5/1.0/1.0, and 130 games at 18.5/4.0/4.5/1.0/1.0, and Win Shares wise those sections should respectively net about 10, 21, and 9. Adding that onto his current career, his final profile would be:
1171 GP: 29.5k Point 8th All-Time ⋄ 7.3k Rebounds ⋄ 5k Assists ⋄ 1.3k Blocks ⋄ 1.3k Steals ⋄ 170 Win Shares ⋄
If his defense actually picks up to peak OKC levels, the Warriors win 3-4 titles in a row, or he has one or two more 30 point seasons, his profile will end up a lot stronger than this, but based on this year and his projections I think it’s as likely his career gets short by injuries or he doesn’t even get 400 more games. There’s a lot of variance with Durant, his metrics have always been kinda weird and the deeper this Warriors run goes you’d think his regular season games will drop, ultimately this seems reasonable.
Projected Ranking: Upper Tier 3 - Borderline Tier 2/3

Chris Paul

Best Career Comps: Magic Johnson, Steve Nash, Hakeem Olajuwon
Current Ranking: Lower Tier 3
Projected Career:
Currently 538’s projections have CP logging two more seasons of similar quality to this year’s effort, where he put up 18.6/7.9/5.4/1.7 in 58 games, then two seasons at roughly Rubio production, before transitioning into a full time role player. Some notable comps are late career Chauncey and Stockton, betting on at least 4 more quality 60 game campaigns appears to be safe though. The first two let’s say at 17/7/4/1.5 and the back two at 13/7/3/1, which adds 240 GP, 3.6k Points, 1.7k Assists, .8k Rebounds, and .3k Steals. For the first two seasons add on 18 Win Shares and for the back two add 8 Win Shares (CP got 10 this year, Rubio had 5 for reference).That puts a safe estimate for Paul’s final tally at:
1132 GP: 20.3k Points ⋄ 10.4k Assists 3rd All-Time ⋄ 4.8k Rebounds ⋄ 2.3k Steals 5th All-Time ⋄ 190.8 Win Shares10th All-Time
Without getting into metrics and efficiency, and especially in a conversation generally very saturated with playoff accomplishments, it’s a bit complicated to establish Paul’s spot. Luckily I am using Win Shares and that stat displays a lot of what I’m talking about with CP3, specifically let’s compare him first to Wade, who holds an 100 game and 5000 point lead on Paul. Which hypothetically should give Wade a leg up in this metric, more game time and more pure production, but in actuality, Wade trails CP in this area by a margin of >50< Win Shares, or the equivalent of five ‘18 Chris Paul seasons (who lead the league in Win Shares/48), or two ‘72 Kareem seasons (the single season Win Share record); Pippen has 300 more games, more points, played for winninger teams, and is considered a better defender, but Paul has 25 more Win Shares (or two 2001 Allen Iverson seasons); Kobe has 300 more games and has doubled CP’s point total, yet only holds a 8 Win Shares advantage (that’s less than Paul had this year in a 58 game campaign); Nash has a 300 game edge, more Assists, and more Points, and is generally considered a better floor general, but even so trails CP by a staggering 40 Win Shares. Building on the abursdity of CP's Win Share collection, it’s not like Paul’s numbers are anything to look down on. There’s only 15 seasons on record with his career averages, of which he accounts for five, but it also doesn’t really seem acknowledged that he’s basically averaged 20/10 for a decade now. Honestly I kinda think it’s because he only averaged at least 20 for two of those seasons, and players aren’t really mentally benchmarked as elite scorers if they’re at 19.0ppg instead 21.5ppg. Regardless, Paul’s definitely up there already, honestly I’d have him tied with Wade in the 20s, and depending on his longevity going forward, he should pass Stockton. He won’t have the same longevity as Stockton, but the comparison between their peak seasons and longevity of peak is a joke, ultimately the 2nd PG All Time behind Magic is CP's for the taking. Game total and playoff success are working against him, and the clocks ticking, but I think he ends up passing Stockton and somewhere in the top 20. A consecutive decade with 19/10/4/2 on 48/38/88 as the premier defender at his position is just ludacris, his final act should add some much needed playoff success and resume padding.
Projected Ranking: High Tier 3
Part 2: All-Time Peak, Short on GP Title explains. 

James Harden

Comparable Peaks: Larry Bird, Shaquille O' Neil + Steve Nash, Oscar Robertson
Projected Career:
First things first, Harden’s individual peak season, either last year or this year depending on playoff performance, is Tier 2 level. 30 ppg and 10 apg on his efficiency is plain absurd, the only better perimeter scorer seasons are Jordan and Lebron. The main two things working against him at the moment is it taking him 3 years to reach high volume numbers and lack of playoff accolades, so even though his peak is already better than Kobe's, it would take a great deal to pass him everything else considered. Next thing to note is a bit of a quirk in Harden’s CARMELO projections, his top ten closest comps include prime Grant Hill, Deron Williams, and Magic Johnson, as well as ‘91 Jordan and ‘10 Wade. Grant Hill had a steep drop off due to injuries, Magic had a medical situation that cut his prime short, Williams just fell off, Jordan took two years off for baseball, and Wade was at the tail end of his prime. It seems like those specific comps curbed his projections, because considering his durability and non-athletic dependent skillset I wouldn’t expect that much of a drop in production for another 3ish years when he hits 31-32. With those caveats out of the way, and a note that he overperformed his projection this year, CARMELO gives him three more years at around a Paul George/Derozan/Beal level and the three after that in Teague range. Next three years assume he stays in the 75 GP a year range, and I’m going with a line of 26.5/7.5/4.5 which... is low looking at his past 3 years and a tad generous looking at the CARMELO projections, but uhh.. can’t please everyone. That adds 6k Points, 1.7k Assists, and 1k Rebounds to his total, with roughly 35 Win Shares. That takes him through his 31 year old season, and for the following three years I’m gonna be a bit more generous in relation to the CARMELO numbers, for years 32-34 I think 65 GP with 23.5/9/4 is well within reason. This gives him another 4.6k Points, 1.8k Assists, and .8k Rebounds, plus 25 Win Shares going into year 15, where he’d be at 1107 career games. He’ll probably play longer than that but projecting that far gets dicey so his final talley here is:
1107 GP: 26.4k Points ⋄ 7.6k Assists ⋄ 5.3k Rebounds ⋄ 156.7 Win Shares ⋄
That’s a stronger profile straight up than Wade, Erving, Pippen, and Nash, and very much comparable to Barkley. 3 MVP level seasons with around 8x All-NBA and 1000GP is something only a handful of perimeter players have accomplished.
Projected Ranking: Tier 3

Stephen Curry

Comparable Peaks: Dwanye Wade, Steve Nash, Jerry West, Dirk Nowitizki
Projected Career: If Curry retired tomorrow he would go down as the greatest shooter to ever play the game and he already holds one of the best offensive seasons ever, putting up 30 a game on a ridiculous 67%TS/63%eFG (the only player with a season of that volume and efficiency) with an equally absurd 125 OffRating in 2700 minutes. Curry’s peak puts him in the Tier 1-2 conversation and in the top 5 point guard conversation, assuming he can start stacking games to bolster his resume. The main blemishes here are a good, but not great, first MVP season(24/8/4/2, 67 wins, title), no FMVP(he deserved Iguodala's), and not really breaking out till he was 24-25. He’s smack in the middle of his prime right now though, he could hypothetically double his game count depending on how he ages. There’s also at the very least, one more year of this Warriors run, but probably longer and while the Rockets are a very real threat, that team isn’t built for the long term. Point being, Curry could feasibly end up with 4-5+ titles, alongside 2 MVPs, a ton of wins, greatest shooter ever, and that’s looking like a resume that could start rivaling Magic. Bringing in the CARMELO, he’s projected to be pretty steady for the next six years; he underperformed this year because he only played 51 games, but is expected to stay at the same effectiveness next year, before marginal a drop, three years at that level, and another two after another small drop. It’s a close enough overall range I’m just going to combine all six of those seasons, 65 games a piece (he’s, somewhat surprisingly, only played less than 74 twice but playing full seasons as the Warriors age seems unlikely +leveraging in case of injuries) at 24.0/6.5/4.5/1.5. That point total may seem low, but that includes his age 34-35 seasons where you’d assume a dip in production of some kind; in terms of increasing Curry’s career stats, from this scenario he adds; 390 GP: 9.4k Points ⋄ 2.5k Assists ⋄ 1.8k Rebounds ⋄ .6k Steals and 55 Win Shares or so. Given that, we’re looking at a final tally of:
1,015 GP: 23.4k Points ⋄ 6.5k Assists ⋄ 4.6k Rebounds ⋄ 1.6k Steals ⋄ 143.3 Win Shares ⋄
A total like that with a peak as strong as his gets into Tier 2 range with enough wins and playoff success. I think his profile is a touch stronger than Durant given the two MVPs, 73 win season, and Championship prior to Durant joining. I’m not going to project titles or playoff success, but with his head start accolade wise and their success from here on out being tied, I give him a little bit stronger chance to end up Tier 2, especially if he ever nabs at least one FMVP.
Projected Ranking: Borderline Tier 2/3
Part 3: Toss Up A bit more vague, but I explain the reasoning on why they're not in the tier up in their projections. 

Russell Westbrook

Projected Career: Well, this is definitely an interesting one, back-to-back triple double seasons, an MVP, a few deep playoff runs with Durant, but about to hit 30 with the very legitimate possibility he doesn’t sniff the Finals again. Despite a few notable scoring seasons, he only actually has 3 seasons above 25 ppg and his career average is somehow only 23 ppg despite a career usage of 32.7%. And yet, an MVP and 1000GP is close to automatic entry to this very definitive, scientific ranking; ultimately failing to pick up a title with Durant is probably going to hurt his resume a good bit when he’s lacking in so many other areas. Taking a step back from narrative and context, let’s see how his stats could measure out; CARMELO gives him two more elite seasons and then four really good seasons and Russ generally does play full seasons, so that could work in his favor. 150 games at 27.0ppg/8.5rpg/8.5apg/1.5spg with 18 Win Shares, and the four season period after that a very slight less game load where he’ll be ages 32-35, so 280 games at 24.0ppg/8.5apg/6.0rpg/1.5spg and 28 Win Shares. His new total given this is:
1,178 GP: 27.8k Points 9th All-Time ⋄ 8k Rebounds ⋄ 9.7k Assists 7th All-Time ⋄ 1.9k Steals ⋄ 136.1Win Shares ⋄
Everything said prior and acknowledging the holes in his game and legacy, that’s a damn impressive career profile. Top ten in scoring and assists, and he has a shot at steals too, basically the pure counting stats would have him in, but no 60 win or title seasons as The Guy is sorta damaging. “Best Player on a Bunch of Sub-50 Win Teams, Only 1 Finals Appearance with Prime Durant” isn’t a generous reading per say, but also wouldn't be particularly untrue to point out. There’s definitely a threshold where his numbers are so ridiculous he gets in though, and the MVP is a very strong accolade, so wait and see?
Projected Ranking: Fringe Tier 3

Anthony Davis

Projected Career:
Little fun fact about Anthony Davis, he is a full 25 years of age, and won’t turn 26 until -next- March. He led the league in PER at age 21 and should reasonably be in his prime for another seven years, even with some nagging injury concerns. Because of the day-to-day nature of following the league, it’s easy to forget perspective when looking at players, especially younger ones with prodigious talent. Anthony Davis averaged 28 and 12 with All-NBA defense when he was 23, and we’ve seen big men who didn’t fully blossom until they’re 28 or later. The sky is absolutely still the limit for AD basically, his metrics and the Pels defensive stats lag, suggesting that his team defense has room for improvement, he’s already added a 3pt shot this year, and now it looks like the Pels should be playoff competitors through Holiday and (possibly)Boogie’s primes with AD. CARMELO has Davis staying in the same range of production until he’s 30, but the model doesn’t go past there, I’m gonna give him to age 35 though with a guesstimate drop. This is projecting the farthest so even though the numbers will probably easily be in Tier 2 or 3, it’s not definitive. For these next six years, his production should be similar and should actually increase, but in the interest of being conservative here, 70 games a year at 27.0/11.5/2.0/2.0/1.0 with 11.5 Win Shares. Through his first six years he’s played 410 games, so it’s only a small uptick, but if he’s healthy from here on out that number should be higher too. At that point he’ll be 31 with five seasons till he’s 35, and a lot of great bigs still played full time into their late 30s, but given the modern NBA I’m going to drop him to 65 games a year for those years at 23.0/9.5/2.0/1.0 and 8.0 Win Shares. It is entirely reasonable to expect him to blow those numbers out of the water though, but even with that let’s take a look at his new profile, with an added; 745 GP: 18.8k Points ⋄ 7.9k Rebounds ⋄ 1.5k Assists ⋄ 1.5k Blocks ⋄ .7k Steals ⋄ 97.5 Win Shares. On top of his current numbers, that gives him a final line of:
1,155 GP: 28.4k Points9th All-Time ⋄ 12.1k Rebounds ⋄ 2.2k Assists ⋄ 2.5k Blocks10th All-Time ⋄ 1.2k Steals ⋄ 160.0 Win Shares ⋄
Moral of the story being that if AD stays healthy and stops improving he could sleepwalk into top ten All-Time in points and blocks. He’s at a point where he legitimately could have two more leaps though, on top of the possibility of him having a crazy long career, ala Dirk/Kareem; as well as the fact that during his real prime (generally ages 28-31): Lebron will be on the wrong side of 36 and the Warriors will be broken up or see some age regress as Curry and Durant head towards 35, so there could be some legit playoff success. He could end up anywhere in the top 25, and I would bet on him making it into there in some fashion.
Projected Ranking: Assuming health, floor is Tier 3. Outside that, who knows?
Part 4: Too Soon to Tell 
This is seriously way-way-way too soon, however, there’s a few players who have historically impressive early careers and should be given a cursory glance.
Giannis Anteokounmpo
Why He’s Notable: This should go without saying, but averaging 27/10/5/1.5/1.5 with 12 Win Shares at age 23 is extremely impressive. Giannis could’ve gotten a profile, AD only has one more actual season on him, but AD has been producing like a cornerstone for four years now and Giannis has only been at this level for just two seasons, including the most recent campaign. He’s the youngest player in the modern era to have at least 25/9/4 in a season, so this is another sky’s the limit player, however I would say Tier 1 is likely out of reach though. He’s made a major leap every year in the league and is about six years short of his prime at the moment, so even though his first two seasons could weigh down his eventual career profile, he could very easily catch up to a lot of Tier 3 guys who had injury periods or weren’t first options large parts of their career. Depending on who the Bucks bring in to coach, Giannis could have Tier 1 peak as soon as next year if the Bucks defensive numbers tick back up and their win total starts to match their talent.
Ben Simmons
Why He’s Notable: Simmons statline this year was a startlingly impressive for a rookie,
81 GP- 15.8ppg/8.1rpg/8.2apg/1.7spg/0.9bpg/9.2 Win Shares, 52-30 record.
Well actually, the rookie qualifier isn’t even necessary to illustrate the rarity of his season, there have only ever been 16 seasons in the history of the NBA with a 15-8-8 line and of those 16 seasons, Simmons is not only the youngest but ranks second in DRPM and third in Defensive Win Shares. Include his 1.5 Steals a game and it’s an even more exclusive club with just seven seasons putting up that line. He is already 21 and the free throwing shooting is a concern, but even if he barely improved and averaged 18.5ppg/8.5apg/8.5rpg/1.5spg/1.0bpg/10 Win Shares as a top ten defender for the next 13-14 years, that’s an all time career. The fact that he’s already putting up All Time numbers bodes very well for the 76ers, his start was legitimately strong enough that Tier 2 is within the realm of possibility if he makes any major leap within the next 3-4 years.
Devin Booker
Why He’s Notable: Booker is one of 9 players to ever average 24.5ppg by age 21, and that’s honestly the only noteworthy accomplishment he has, but points are pretty important so note this accomplishment I have. Issue projecting Booker is his playoff and team success in the next decade is an complete unknown and and he could reasonably hit 6,000 Points before he’s 23, a near lock (health presuming) for the All-Time Points leaderboard. which deserves a mention at the very least. For reference, Kobe’s first four seasons netted him 4,240 Points, Dirk’s left him with 5,383; and Malone and Jordan played their rookie seasons at age 22. That’s the 3rd, 6th, 2nd, and 4th All-Time scoring leaders respectively, and Booker is absolutely in range to have a huge head start on a point total if he’s a legit 25 a game scorer moving forward.
Karl Anthony Towns
Why He’s Notable: KAT also falls in the prior mentioned group of sub-22 year olds with a 25 ppg season, doing so last year before the acquisition of Jimmy Butler. He has a couple of legs up on Booker when looking at their production to date: KAT has so far not missed a game in his career, his rookie season was a great deal more impressive, and his comical efficiency. He’s already sitting at 5,307 Points through his first three seasons, averaging 21.6 ppg at age 22 with these shooting percentages: 54/39/84 & eFG/TS of 58/62. Basically off to a strong enough start at a young enough age that the sky's the limit scoring wise, as well as nearly 12 boards a game for his first three seasons and a solid collection of metrics. It seems like his stock has taken a hit the past year, especially last few weeks, but all he’s shown so far in his career is machine-like levels of durability and production. His full potential could be held back by playing next to multiple high usage perimeter guys, though on the flip side maybe that will be offset by increased early playoff success.
That's That 
From my research I'd say there's at least 5 of the 25 best players ever in the league now, playing at a high level, and possibly as many as 11. Safe bet seems like 8 seems, it's hard to imagine at least one of BookeRuss/KAT/Simmons as well as Davis and Giannis busting hard enough to knock them off the path they've set for themselves and once the Lebron era finishes up the standard will be raised a good amount.
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2018.06.13 17:47 dhalsimballskin A Full Guide on How to Rhyme Like Eminem

Hey everyone, I wrote this guide for you people who are beginners at rhyming. Eminem is considered godly mainly due to his multi-syllabic rhyming ability.
I posted on Medium as well, I tried adding the link as there is a cool tip I use to find more varieties of multi's using Google autocomplete function (closer to the bottom). But the mods just took my post down because of it i'm assuming. So I removed it. Hopefully this helps someone starting out. I fell in love with hip hop when I learned about multi's. Anyways, enjoy.
Near Rhymes
Don’t let yourself be fooled by the “perfect” Rhyme. In hip hop and rap, it is necessary to use imperfect rhymes called “Near Rhymes”. There is a very limited number of “perfect rhymes” available, making them repetitive. When you introduce “Near Rhymes”, it opens up doors to syllable matching.
Ok, so what is a Perfect rhyme then?
Cat, Hat, Bat, Mat, Stat, Chat etc.
Goal, Roll, Mole, Hole, Toll
Air, Chair, Bear, Care, Dare
  1. The vowel sound of the syllables are the same.
  2. The consonants sound after the vowels belong to the same phonetic families.
  3. The sounds before the vowels are different.
In order to learn about how near rhymes work, we need to understand Phonetic families. Here is a chart I am going to explain in detail. We will reference this chart regularly so keep it handy.
There are 3 boxes — Plosives, Fricatives, and Nasals. Each one is a phonetic family of consonants. When a word ends in a consonant in one of the boxes you can use the other members of the family to find the perfect rhyme substitutions.
​Dub/Bud/Rug/Pup/Shut/Luck are all part of the PLOSIVES family. So they are family rhymes.
Dove/Tough(f)/Bus/Lush/Clutch are all part of the Fricative family.
Bum/Run/Lung are all a part of the Nasal Family.
Say you want to rhyme:
IF we were to just use perfect rhymes, we would get: App, Brap, Cap, clap, dap, flap, gap, lap, map, nap, rap, slap, scrap, strap, tap, trap.
That’s it though. Those are all of the options available. Saying what you WANT to say becomes pretty hard when you only have 15 options.
Now let’s look at the options we get if we include our phonetic family members.
Lab, ab, cab, dab, tab, stab, grab, nab, crab, scab, Bad, Add, brad, clad, dad, fad, grad, glad, had, lad, mad, nad, pad, rad, sad, Tag, bag, mag, shag, lag, nag, haig, Fat, at, bat, cat, brat, fat, flat, frat, gat, hat, lat, matt, nat, pat, rat, stat, spat, slat, scat, Rack, back, crack, jack, lack, mack, pack, rack, sack,stack, tack, track, Have, Math, bath, hath, path, wrath, Spaz, Laugh, Harass, Cash, Catch
So obviously there is more, however you sacrifice the PERFECTNESS of the rhyme. The good thing is with rap and spoken word, these are still close enough to sound pleasing to the human ear. It’s been proven time and time again by the best rappers in the world.
Now let’s try to rhyme:
What is a perfect rhyme for Safe? Strafe? Almost nothing. But if you add in the Phonetic family members:
Faith, Base, Case, Face, Erase, Grace, Lace, Mase, Pace, race, trace, Gave, Behave, slave, rave, dave, brave, crave, cave, save, wave, Maze, Craze, Taze, Lays, Plays, Days, Haze, Blaze,
H, cape, drape, ape, tape, gape, Escape, Fate, rate, hate, state, berate, crate, date, gate, great, grate, hate, late, mate, bake, cake, drake, fake, lake, make, nake, rake, sake, take, wake.
You get way more options, which means more creative potential, however restricted enough so it still sounds pleasing.
pendulum, rum, bum, dumb, drum
Fun, Done, Bun, gun, hun, nun, pun, run, sun, stun, shun, tonne, won, Lung, Tongue, Hung, Clung, Rung, stung, Sung,
When the word you want to rhyme ends in a vowel like see, day, Bye, Go.
The only thing you can do for more options is to add a consonant to the end of the word.
Let’s take a look back at the family rhyme members. Voiced Plosives — g, b, d — are the least harsh and pair with vowels the best, use these first if possible. Let’s go through an example and go through each one:
Nasals are last on the list of good rhyming options — Day — Dame — Lane — Rang.
You can also add consonants even if there is already consonants after the vowel. Beat/Sweets, Hive/Drives, lane/rained
  1. The syllables vowel sounds are the same.
  2. One of the syllables adds an extra consonant after the vowel.
  3. The sounds before the vowels are different.
Fast/Class, Mask/Mass, Fact/Back, inept/rep
Start with Fast and Class is subtractive.
Start with Class and Fast is additive.
Most rappers fall somewhere in between near rhymes and assonance rhyme. It is very helpful for rhyming multi-syllables schemes.
  1. The syllables’ vowel sounds are the same.
  2. The consonant sounds after the vowels are unrelated.
  3. The sounds before the vowels are different.
So for example. An assonance rhyme for Drown. It has that ‘OW’ vowel sound. So keeping to the rules, the consonants don’t matter and this is the furthest you can get from a perfect rhyme.
Drown, sound, doubt, vowed, house, couch, mouth, owl, How.
This is the cornerstone of ANY rhyme in songwriting or poetry. If you do not understand this then you are at a loss.
​Write 10 near rhymes for the word Goat.

Two-Syllable Rhyme Schemes
Now we understand imperfect rhyme and how to use it. Let’s move to another basic concept that many rappers don’t use or understand.
To get my point across, let’s look at a list of rappers who DO use Multis and compare the quality of rappers who DON’T regularly use multis.
Rappers who do use Multis regularly:
Eminem, Rakim, Big Pun, MF doom, Big L, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Brother Ali, Atmosphere, Kool G Rap, Tech N9ne, Logic, Chance the Rapper, Earl Sweatshirt, Aesop Rock, Apathy, AZ, Jadakiss, Vinnie Paz, Army of the Pharaohs, Shad K, Crooked I, Joell Ortiz, Joe Budden, Royce da 5'9, Cunninglynguists.
There are so many more I’m missing but these are some of the most well-known, either way this is pretty much a list of some of the greatest rappers ever.
Two-syllable rhyme is exactly as it sounds. A two-syllable word or phrase that uses Near rhymes to give it a similar sound. Let’s look at some two-syllable options.
Rapper, Wacker, Ladder, Dabber, Thrasher, Capture, Mastered, Camper, Expander.
OR compound words like laptop. So what’s the difference between Rapper and laptop? They are both 2-syllables…But the difference is Stressed and Unstressed Vowels & syllables.
‘Ah’ is the stressed on rapper. You don’t say Rap — ER. You say rAHpper, and emphasize the ‘ah’ sound. Well, if you’re Canadian like me…
When I say stressed syllables, all I mean is where do you put the emphasis on those words. People say things differently all over the world. So, different accents can have different rhymes. For the sake of explaining, I’m Canadian.
With the word laptop. There are two stressed syllables, LAP & TOP, which changes things. We want to “Rhyme” both stressed syllables. I put quotes because we can use any type of family rhyme to do it.
Laptop/Snapshot — The first syllable is Snap. The second syllable is Shot. Let’s break down a list of options we have available to us.
Slap, Hat, Back, Batch, Laugh, Grab, Cash, Have, Bath, Fast, Class, Had
Nasal & Assonance Lamb, Can, Aunt
Shot, Thought, Drop, Talk, Watch, Cough, Rob, God, Cause, Moth, Loss, Lost
Nasal & Assonance Calm, Lawn,
Black Thought
Back Talk
Jack Scott
Flag Plot
Snack Shop
Cash Drop
Bad Cough
Rap God
Cash Lost
Class taught
Back drop
​Axe Chopped
Black Ops
As a rule: The last syllable in the rhyming word/phrase should be closest to its phonetic family as possible. When looking at a phrase you want to rhyme, the end of the word should be closest to perfect. The beginning and middle are MUCH less important and can be assonance rhymes.
As an example: We can use nasal assonance for the first syllable and near perfect rhymes for the last syllable. Lamb chop, Shamrock.
Still sounds good…
But if you switched that around it would take away the proper emphasis and directly affect the rhythm. Tampon, Hats Gone, Ask Mom.
Snack shop/Tampon — Kind of loses its rhyme feel, right?
Definitely stay closer to perfect with the last syllable of the rhyme word(s) to get emphasis in hip hop. Knowing this will come in handy as we advance to 3+ Syllables.
Three-Syllable Rhyme Schemes - Stressed and Unstressed Syllables
​Before we dive in. Let’s talk about Stressed and Unstressed syllables again. I almost made a chapter on this topic alone because it’s so important. But it starts to become more important with three-Syllable rhymes, so I’ll cover it here.
Where are the stressed syllables?
‘Ah’ sound and ‘i’ sound are stressed vowels. When dealing with 3 syllables or more, the rules start to open up. Let me explain.
You can use close to perfect rhymes: Anti-Christ, Panty Heist, Auntie Diced.
Near Rhymes: Anti-Christ, Candy life, handy knife, Nanny twice, Fancy Bikes, Camry lights.
Okay, definitely some cool options there.
But we can get even more options to open up for us when using assonance to Rhyme the stressed vowel and DON’T RHYME the unstressed syllables. You still need a syllable there. But you don’t need to rhyme it at all. Let’s try:
AGAIN we are ONLY assonance rhyming the STRESSED vowel.
Stressed — Unstressed — Stressed
‘Ah’ Rhyme — Any syllable — ‘Eye’ rhyme
Grandma’s nice
Anvil Strikes
Hammered twice
Vannah White
Gambling Dice
Sample splice
Stand Tonight
Stand to fight
Private Shows
Wine Merlot
Designer clothes
Violet Robes
Highest dose
Dwayne Wade Shoots
Stressed — Stressed — Stressed
Dwayne Wade Shoots
Brain Wave Loops
Game day Jukes
Eighth grade roots
Melee moves
Make Grape Juice
Hate Grey Goose
Stressed — Stressed — Unstressed
Because the end of the rhyme is the most important piece to remain perfect, you cannot rhyme snow blower with, slow going — even though the assonance is the same, this goes against the rule that the end of the word has to remain as close as possible to perfect or near rhyme to make it effective. Though you can still use slow going IN the full line, just not at the end of the bar.
Snow blower
Comb Over
No Closure
Stone Sober
Boat Motor
Cold Shoulder
Broke Toaster
​Identify YOUR OWN stressed and unstressed syllables in these words and phrases.
  1. Hanging on
  2. Banjo Strum
  3. Abandoned
  4. Relieve stress
  5. Five Thirty
Four-Syllable Rhyme schemes
​Since we now understand how stressed and unstressed syllables work, we can move on to 4 Syllable rhyme schemes with EASE. We are finding and rhyming the stressed syllables while fitting in the unstressed syllables that don’t need to rhyme. Make sure the end of the word rhymes close to its phonetic family.
Let’s look at some examples and tackle the issues that arise.
Marketing pitch
Where are the stressed syllables?
Stressed — Unstressed — Unstressed — Stressed
Carving a niche
Arm getting stiff
Car in the ditch
Karmas a bitch
Starting to flinch
Article Skipped
Particles Split
Hard to resist
Marginal Shift
Get impatient
Bread is bakin
Weather Changin
Refs Amazin
Clever Statement
Medicine cabinet
Element added
Electrical static
Chemical addict
Sexual Magic
Federal Taxes
Letter fanatic
Better to cab it
I’m not going to get into rhyme schemes and flow. We will save that for another course as it falls into both categories.
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2018.03.14 14:57 Mr_Jersey Talkin' Tank: Your Daily #KnicksTank Report, 3/14/18

We almost saw a great night in tank land last night. The Hawks, Nets, and Bulls all held legitimate leads at one point or another in their respective matchups but alas their armor was strong and they were all able lose in the second half. The combined second half scores of those three teams vs. their opponents was 122-174. The tank is so, so strong.
Results We Like From Last Night
Mavericks 110 @ Knicks 97
We did our job and extended our losing streak to 8 games, which now trails only the Grizzlies 18 game losing streak (lol) for longest in the league. We may not have gained all the ground we wanted last night but losing to the Mavericks was still incredibly important. For one we didn't lose any ground and we still at least gained a game on Dallas. We now sit only two games back of them for the 7th spot, which would bump us up to a 15% shot at a top 3 pick. In the loss Young Frank was able to dish 6 assists to become the youngest Knick ever to reach 200 assists in a season, despite only playing 16 minutes last night (Hornacek is getting weird with his rotations again). Also, Timmy seemed to be a little shaken up at the end of the game and Kanter is sending out cryptic tweets, so ya know, things are looking great!
Games To Watch Tonight
Bucks @ Magic (20-48, 3rd in #TankRank)
Orlando takes on the Greek Freak and newly acquired, and apparently good again, Brandon Jennings in hopes (maybe) of snapping their five game losing streak. The Magic will still be without Evan Fournier and may also still not have Aaron Gordon who is recovering from a concussion. The Magic are 5-16 this season when Gordon does not play. If Gordon is out I give them a 0% chance of winning this game, if he's in I give them an 8% chance of winning this game.
Heat @ Kings (21-47, 6th in #TankRank)
The Heat had to Sacramento tonight for a date with the Kings and attempt to snap an eight game road losing streak. Let's hope they can't do it. Sacramento and the 6th spot is still within our reach and a win for the Kings tonight would bring it that much closer. Dwayne Wade may not play in this one and Hassan Whiteside is already ruled out so I actually kind of, sort of, like the Kings chances in this one. They played the Thunder very close on Monday before falling 106-101. If they get good games from Fox and Bogdanovic against the Heat they can definitely steal this one.
Tankathon.com One Click Draft Lottery Simulation Results
  1. Nets to CLE +4
  2. Kings +4
  3. Mavs +4
  4. Grizz -3
  5. Suns -3
  6. Magic -3
  7. Hawks -3
  8. Bulls
  9. Knicks
  10. Hornets
  11. Pistons to LAC
  12. Lakers to PHI
  13. Nuggets
  14. Spurs (?!?!?!?)
Pretty weird one today with three different teams each jumping up exactly four spots. Again, if the Cavs get this #1 pick because the dumbass Nets can't even figure out how to be regular bad instead of god awful I am going to be so fucking mad.
Prospect Update
Watch the tournament.
PS: Shouts to Radford on knocking off LIU! A tournament win, is a tournament win, is a tournament win. Great job by the guys winning the right to get smoked by Nova lol. But seriously congrats to them and everyone down in Raddy, I know it was a party there last night. Watch that ass Nova! The 1-3-1 zone is comin' for ya!
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2018.02.21 03:44 TheChampionofBoxes 20 Year Challenge

So I've recently had the idea to start a my league in the 1997-1998 season with an accurate roster and 20 years of accurate draft classes and played through 20 years to today's date just to see how differently things could have turned out and some interesting results came out. The first change to note is in the new timeline it was the Lakers vs the Pacers in the 1998 finals with Pacers winning in game 7 and Reggie Miller being the finals MVP. 2nd, Michael Jordan played until 2004 without retiring winning 1 more champion in 1999 vs the Seattle Supersonics with Scottie Pippen being the finals MVP. 3rd the Phoenix Suns created a dynasty with Steve Nash Jason Kidd and Antonio McDyess winning 3 champions in 4 years in 2002(Antonio Finals MVP) 2003 (Steve Nash Finals MVP) and 2005 (Antonio Finals MVP) 4th the Miami Heat still got Dwayne Wade with the #1 pick in the 2003 draft. LeBron went #2 to the supersonics. 5th Greg Oden not a bust 6 time all star. 6th Russell Westbrook picked 2nd in 2008 by the heat with D. Wade. 7th some of the stars who teamed up irl also teamed up in this sim like KG and Paul Peirce on the Timberwolves, also AD and DeMarcus Cousins also on Timberwolves. But there is so much more like Manu Ginobili leading the Boston Celtics to 5 championships in 7 years from 2007 to 2013, the bulls drafting Cp3, PG13, Andre Drummond, Andre Iguodala, and Dirk Nowitzki or LeBron and Kobe playing on the same team in their prime but staying around. 500. I just thought this was really interesting and wanted to see some people do the same and hear their results because I love how this turned out.
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2017.10.25 21:30 picklefoots [PD] Dwayne "Batman" Wade

Dwayne Wade is not playing Wednesday night due to a left knee contusion.
He requested to be moved to a reserve role, and he came off the bench in yesterday's win. He has his best game of the season to date with 11 points, 3 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, while going 5/7 from the field and 1/2 an the charity stripe on 19 minutes.
I know the Cavs are still trying to figure out how to best utilize their quality players (they have a ton), but does anyone honestly think Wade can do better than what he did last night? I drafted him in the 6th round, I know it was dumb, and I don't want to be pessimistic about the future Hall of Famer, but I honestly feel like he is a drop candidate in my 12 team league.
Does anyone have anything optimistic to say about Wade and his outlook on the rest of the season?
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2017.10.22 17:49 IMAYousaf [OC] MVP of the Day - October 21, 2017


Sports awards are often accused of not being impartial, and being driven by storylines. This series will attempt to track the MVP for the NBA season based upon a day-by-day tracking system, and see if the player deemed the MVP at the end of the season consistently performs as the MVP throughout the season, without any storyline. In the moment rankings are interesting because in theory, they should be free of pre-formed ideas about players, if we analyze every game in isolation.


The MVP is evaluated day by day, in a rather holistic way, more akin to how the Finals MVP is given out. Players can still earn a spot despite losing, if they are deemed to have performed accordingly. The first place selection gets five MVP points, which descends by place selection till the fifth place selection, who only gets one.

General Comments on the Day:

Today was a great day of NBA basketball. A lot of the games were close today, and I really liked the energy. In particular, that Grizzlies vs. Warriors game, the marquee matchup for the day, was really charged up. The Warriors went on several runs, and while the Grizzlies thoroughly outplayed them for most of the game, towards the end, I felt like they had a decent chance to come through with a victory, but some carelessness with the ball, and suspect calls from the refs, lead to Curry and KD being ejected, which admittedly was great entertainment. It was interesting that in addition to the rare Warriors loss, this day also produced a Cavs loss too, against much weaker opposition, the Orlando Magic, lead by Nikola Vucevic. He had a strong and efficient showing after his 40+ point game yesterday. LeBron is still clearly playing at a high level, but maybe he was serious when he said that he was out of shape to start the season, because he hasn’t started producing the volume stats that are common for him. I think that DRose returning would help with that, because the Cavs seemed to be weak when driving from the perimeter, and lacked aggression. As we saw with last year’s finals, it’s not possible to just flip the switch in the playoffs and immediately become more aggressive, so the Cavs should look into making sure that the bench steps up when the starters aren’t their usual selves. In addition, Dwayne Wade shouldn’t be starting games until he has a string of good games. He’s been pretty poor to start the season. I was quite busy today and had most of the other games on in the background as I was working around the home, so I probably missed some nuance, but I caught most of what was a pretty entertaining day overall.

Table for Today:

Name Date Rank Minutes Points Rebounds Assists FG FT 3PT Steals Blocks Turnovers PF +/-
Giannis Antetokounmpo October 21, 2017 1 39 44 8 4 17-23 9-13 1-4 2 1 2 3 3
Marc Gasol October 21, 2017 2 36 34 14 2 8-16 16-17 2-4 1 2 7 1 10
Blake Griffin October 21, 2017 3 28 29 8 4 12-14 1-1 3-8 1 1 3 2 15
DeMar DeRozan October 21, 2017 4 27 30 3 3 8-12 14-16 0-1 0 0 1 3 30
James Harden October 21, 2017 5 31 29 3 7 10-19 3-4 6-13 2 0 5 5 31

Notable Exception:

Name Date Minutes Points Rebounds Assists FG FT 3PT Steals Blocks Turnovers PF +/-
Tobias Harris October 21, 2017 38 31 6 1 13-24 2-3 3-9 0 0 0 3 7​

Reasoning for MVP Selection:

Giannis Antetokounmpo is called the Greek Freak for a reason. Today he had an absolutely monstrous performance, building off of his previous performances for the season thus far. Portland remains a very competitive team, and Giannis showcased his full arsenal of moves to make winning plays and carry MIlwaukee to victory. He had a moment where he was completely denied at the rim by Jusuf Nurkic, only to rather poetically block him in the closing moments, during which he also got a clutch steal with some rather generous contact, and a crazy explosive cross-court one man fastbreak into a dunk. He is on fire, and his post-game interview should serve as a warning to the league, when he said that there’s still 79 games left, and the playoffs, and that he’s not done yet. While he’s still young and uber athletic, and really showing out as the man everytime he steps onto the court, his teammates need to do a little bit more to support him. I personally don’t have a huge problem with him playing high minutes, but the production levels from the others around him need to increase, because he’s playing some hard minutes.

Reasoning for Notable Exception:

Tobias Harris has gone unheralded, but has had a strong start to the season. Detroit has played well so far, and might have a chance to make something happen in the East, given the horrible injury to Gordon Hayward, reducing the threat thus far of the Celtics considerably. The Pistons have had a relatively easy schedule, with a narrow loss to the better Washington Wizards, and have one more game vs. the 76ers left before they have to face the Timberwolves at home, and then subsequently play the Clippers and Warriors on back to back nights away. However, they can count on Tobias Harris, who was instrumental in today’s 21 point comeback win over the Knicks. While the Knicks are quite terrible, it’s a positive sign for the Pistons, who finished last season just 13-28 away from home, the 10th worst in the Eastern Conference, and won just 1 out of their previous 8 games vs. New York based teams over the last two years. Tobias Harris actually gave the Pistons their lead over the Knicks when he nailed a jumper over Kristaps Porzingis with under a minute left in the fourth quarter. Harris, along with PG Reggie Jackson, thoroughly exploited Porzingis in the pick-and-roll, a worrying sign for the Knicks. While Porzingis himself had a good showing offensively, and has thus far shown that he can carry an offensive load, he has to step up more on the defensive end.


Please don’t hesitate to give feedback. For your convenience, I have made a Google Form for you, and can track community responses relative to my own selections.

Raw Data:

You can find the raw data on a Google Sheet. Please note that not all of the data for some of the tabs can be completed until more games have passed.

Prior Threads:

October 17, 2017
October 18, 2017
October 20, 2017
October 20, 2017

Series Update:

We've only had a couple games thus far, so I haven't started to aggregate the assigned MVP points per player. Those are coming soon though!
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2017.08.23 02:04 _TIMBER_ The 2017 Offseason is the undisputed GOAT

  1. D'Angelo Russell traded to Nets
  2. Paul George traded to OKC
  3. Chris Paul traded to Houston
  4. Gordon Hayward signs with the Celtics
  5. Jimmy Butler traded to Minnesota
  6. Isaiah Thomas traded to Cavs
  7. Kyrie Irving traded to Celtics
  8. Derrick Rose signs with Cavs
  9. Rajon Rondo signs with the Pelicans
  10. Paul Milsap signs with Denver
  11. Brook Lopez traded to the Lakers
  12. J.J. Reddick signs with the 76ers
  13. Nick Young signs with Golden State
  14. The 2017 #1 pick was traded from the Celtics to the 76ers
  15. Rudy Gay signs with the Spurs
  16. Dwight Howard traded to the Hornets
  17. Avery Bradley traded to the Pistons
  18. Ricky Rubio traded to Utah
  19. Cash Considerations
  20. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope signs with the Lakers
  21. The Lavar Ball Saga
  22. Lowry, Harden, Curry, Griffin, Wall etc. re-sign for record highs
  23. Phil Jackson fired
  24. Magic Johnson under investigation for tampering
  25. Woj + DraftExpress join ESPN
  26. David Griffin fired as Cavs GM
  27. Tim Hardaway Jr.'s Massive contract with the Knicks
  28. Burte Steele (Twitter phony) predicted a Carmelo to Houston trade that never materialized.
  29. Porzingis trade rumors and reported beef with Phil Jackson
  30. Gallinari traded to Clippers and his involvement in "fistgate"
  31. Buck's GM search debacle
  32. Lonzo Ball selling out Summer League games (hype train initiated)
  33. Pau Gasol re-signs with the Spurs
  34. Sham vs. Woj reporting battles
  35. Warriors shelling out $2 million+ for a second round pick that would become Jordan Bell
  36. GS signs Omri Casspi
  37. Allen Crabbe and DeMarre Carroll traded to the Nets
  38. People remember that OJ Mayo is still in the league (1 year left on his drug suspension).
  39. George Hill, Vince Carter, and Zach Randolph sign with the Kings
  40. Kelly Olynyk signs with the Heat
  41. Big Baller Brand
  42. Paul Pierce retires as a Celtic
  43. NBA might have kept Giannis Antetokounmpo from playing in European Championships over the Summer.
  44. Morris twins get a trial date in Phoenix (August 28) and could face jail time for 2015 alleged assault.
  45. Golden State Warriors may not visit the White House due to Trump.
  46. Steve Ballmer (Clippers Owner) uses shady tactics to buy out land in Inglewood for new Clipper Stadium.
  47. Brandon Knight tears ACL and could miss the entire 2017-2018 season.
  48. Zach Randolph arrested for possession of marijuana with intent to sell.
  49. Jerry West leaves GSW and signs with the Clippers as a FO advisor.
  50. Doc Rivers relieved of GM duties and now only coaches.
  51. Hoodie Melo
  52. James Harden gets his jersey retired a Houston strip club
  53. Jamaal Crawford signs with the Twolves.
  54. Ian Clark signs with the Pelicans.
  55. NBA talks up possible expansion, Seattle on the short list.
  56. Jeff Teague signs with Minnesota.
  57. Chauncey Billups reportedly lowballed by Cavs during GM search.
  58. The BIG 3 League
  59. Carmelo waives no-trade clause and gets traded to OKC
  60. Dwayne Wade reaches buyout with CHI and signs with Cleveland
  61. Steph Curry and the warriors reject the president's invitation and in turn, get uninvited.
  62. NBA mentions possible review of Marijuana use among NBA players
  63. FBI arrests 10 NCAA assistant coaches for corruption. Addidas leaders, financial advisors, and NBA agents under investigation for fraud/corruption for paying families of recruits to steer them to certain Adidas schools.
  64. Coach Pop's vocal response to President Trump
  65. Kevin Durant's multiple Twitter accounts.
  66. IT's injury causes Cleveland to go after multiple assets to complete trade for Irving (ended with an additional 2nd rounder)
  67. Kobe becomes the first player in NBA history to have two numbers retired.
**7 All-stars from 2017 have changed teams this offseason.
  1. Carmelo Anthony
  2. Kyrie Irving
  3. Isiah Thomas
  4. Paul George
  5. Gordon Hayward
  6. Jimmy Butler
  7. Chris Paul
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2017.06.23 19:49 duneboggler 2017 NBA Free Agent Tracker

Two "Must Bookmark" Reddit pages for the offseason.

Please visit MrMittenz fantastic 2017-18 Team Roster Tracker. This has every team's current signees and roster holes in a very easy to read format. His page is a must bookmark for the offseason.

Perksofthesewalls (and moderator of /warriors) has taken over the reins of the 2017 FAQ on Free Agency/Salary Cap. This is an excellent resource to get to know what new rules and constraints your favorite teams are operating under.

Quick notes

  • If you have information that I missed, please put it in the comments or PM me. I'll update ASAP.
  • I like to keep the tracker dynamic -- if the formatting is bad on certain platforms, please let me know and I'll adjust accordingly.
  • If you are on a PC, I strongly recommend installing RES so you can sort the tables by clicking on their titles.
  • 2015 Free Agent Tracker and 2016 Free Agent Tracker for your reference.
  • Thank you to Perksofthesewalls for starting things up for me.
  • Thank you to zandrickellison, kawhi-et_Riot and utw for their fantastic free agent summaries.

Live Stream

I'll be attempting to keep this stream live with updates. https://www.reddit.com/live/z5fexlg4dlsx
If you are interested in helping with keeping its content fresh, please PM me. I would want people who are regular /nba contributors.

Key Upcoming Dates

June 22nd — 2017 Draft
June 24th — Last day for potential restricted free agents to exercise player options.
June 29th — Last day for decisions on player, team and early termination options, unless individual contracts specify otherwise (see list of contracts that specify otherwise).
June 30th — Last official day of 2016/17 league year; last day for teams to make qualifying offers to players eligible for restricted free agency.
July 1st — Official start of 2017/18 league year; July moratorium begins. Free agents can begin reaching verbal agreements with teams.
July 6th — July moratorium ends (11:00am CT); teams can begin officially signing players and making trades.
July 7th — Moratorium over; teams can begin signing players and making trades.
July 13 — Last day for teams to unilaterally withdraw qualifying offers to restricted free agents.
July 15 — Last day for teams to issue required tenders to unsigned first-round picks; those players become free agents on July 16 if not tendered.
August 31 — Last day teams may waive players and apply the stretch provision to their 2017/18 salaries.
September 5 — Last day for teams to issue required tenders to unsigned second-round picks; those players become free agents on September 6 if not tendered.


Day Old Team Player Pos Age Type 2016-17 Salary New Team Contract Source
27 GSW JaVale McGee C 29.4 UFA $1,403,611 GSW 1yminimum Haynes
25 SAC Arron Afflalo G 31.7 UFA $12,500,000 ORL 1yminimum Woj
25 LAL Tyler Ennis G 22.8 UFA $1,733,880 LAL 1yminimum Shelburne
24 LAC Marreese Speights C-F 29.9 UFA $1,403,611 ORL 1y$2.1M Zillgitt
24 NYK Derrick Rose G 28.7 UFA $21,323,250 CLE 1y$2.1M Charania
21 SAS Pau Gasol F-C 37.0 UFA $15,500,000 SAS 3yUnknown Woj
20 HOU Bobby Brown G 32.7 RFA $934,293 HOU 1yminimum Pick
20 MIA Udonis Haslem F-C 37.0 UFA $4,000,000 MIA 1yminimum Charania
20 HOU Troy Williams F 22.6 UFA $725,440 HOU 3yUnknown Woj
18 MIA Willie Reed F-C 27.1 UFA $1,015,696 LAC 1y$1.5M Haynes
18 SAS Manu Ginobili G 39.9 UFA $14,000,000 SAS 1yUnknown Woj
16 LAL Tarik Black C 25.6 UFA $6,191,000 HOU 1y$3.2M Charania
16 LAC Luc Mbah a Moute F 30.8 UFA $2,203,000 HOU Unknown Haynes
15 CHI Rajon Rondo G 31.4 UFA $14,000,000 NOP 1y$3.2M Charania
15 LAL David Nwaba G 24.5 UFA $137,466 CHI Waiver Charania
14 SAS Jonathon Simmons G-F 27.8 RFA $874,636 ORL 3y$20M Charania
14 OKC Nick Collison F 36.7 UFA $3,750,000 OKC 1yminimum Charania
13 WAS Otto Porter F 24.0 RFA $5,893,981 WAS 4y$106M Aldridge
12 ATL Ersan Ilyasova F 30.1 UFA $8,400,000 ATL 1y$6M Charania
12 BOS Jonas Jerebko F 30.3 UFA $5,000,000 UTA 2y$8.2M Woj
12 ATL Thabo Sefolosha G-F 33.1 UFA $3,850,000 UTA 2y$10.5M Charania
11 SAS Dewayne Dedmon C 27.9 UFA $2,898,000 ATL 2y$14M Amick
11 DET Kentavious Caldwell-Pope G 24.3 RFA $3,678,319 LAL 1y$18M Windhorst
11 SAC Anthony Tolliver F 32.0 UFA $8,000,000 DET 1y$3M Charania
10 DET Reggie Bullock G-F 26.3 RFA $2,255,644 DET 2y$5M Charania
10 CHI Joffrey Lauvergne C-F 25.7 RFA $1,709,720 SAS Unknown Charania
10 PHX Alan Williams F-C 24.4 RFA $874,636 PHX 3y$17M Charania
9 DET Aron Baynes C 30.5 UFA $6,500,000 BOS 1y$4.3M Charania
9 IND C.J. Miles G-F 30.2 UFA $4,583,450 IND -> TOR 3y$25M Woj Woj2
8 LAC Jamal Crawford G 37.3 UFA $13,253,012 MIN 2y$9M Charania
7 ORL Jeff Green F 30.8 UFA $15,000,000 CLE 1y$2.3M Zillgitt
7 UTA Shelvin Mack G 27.2 UFA $2,433,334 ORL 2y$12M Woj
7 GSW Zaza Pachulia C 33.4 UFA $2,898,000 GSW 1y$3.5M Amick
7 LAC Raymond Felton G 33 UFA $1,551,659 OKC 1yminimum Haynes
7 WAS Bojan Bogdanovic G-F 28.2 RFA $3,730,653 IND 2y$21M Woj
7 SAC Tyreke Evans G-F 27.8 UFA $10,661,286 MEM 1y$3.3M Woj
7 ATL Mike Muscala F-C 26.0 UFA $1,015,696 ATL 2y$10M Charania
6 ATL Tim Hardaway G 25.3 RFA $2,281,605 NYK 4y$71M Charania
6 DAL Dirk Nowitzki F 39.0 UFA $25,000,000 DAL 2y$10M MacMahon
6 MIA James Johnson F 30.3 UFA $4,000,000 MIA 4y$60M Scotto
6 MEM Vince Carter G-F 40.4 UFA $4,264,057 SAC 1y$8M Woj
6 SAC Rudy Gay F 30.8 UFA $13,333,333 SAS 2y$17M Woj
6 BOS Kelly Olynyk C-F 26.2 UFA $3,094,014 MIA 4y$50M Woj
5 OKC Andre Roberson G-F 25.5 RFA $2,183,072 OKC 3y$30M Woj
5 MIA Dion Waiters G 25.5 UFA $2,898,000 MIA 4y$52M Woj
5 LAL Nick Young G-F 32.1 UFA $5,443,918 GSW 1y$5.2M Woj
5 DEN Danilo Gallinari F 28.9 UFA $15,050,000 DEN -> LAC 3y$65M Woj
4 TOR Patrick Patterson F 28.3 UFA $6,050,000 OKC 3y$16.4M Woj
4 MIN Omri Casspi F 29 UFA $3,138,414 GSW 1yminimum Bontemps
4 UTA Gordon Hayward F-G 27.2 UFA $16,073,140 BOS 4y$128M Haynes
4 MEM Zach Randolph F 35.9 UFA $10,361,445 SAC 2y$24M Woj
4 UTA George Hill G 31.1 UFA $8,000,000 SAC 3y$57M Charania
4 PHX Mike Scott F 28.9 UFA $3,333,334 WAS 1yminimum Woj
3 SAC Darren Collison G 29.8 UFA $5,229,454 IND 2y$20M Woj
3 GSW Kevin Durant F-G 28.7 UFA $26,540,100 GSW 2y$53M Haynes Amick
2 ATL Paul Millsap F 32.4 UFA $20,072,033 DEN 3y$90M Charania
2 SAC Ben McLemore G 24.4 RFA $4,008,882 MEM 2y$10M Woj
2 NYK Justin Holiday G 28.2 UFA $1,015,696 CHI 2y$9M Charania
2 TOR Kyle Lowry G 31.2 UFA $12,000,000 TOR 3y$100M Scotto
2 CLE Kyle Korver G-F 36.3 UFA $5,239,437 CLE 3y$22M Charania
2 ORL Jodie Meeks G 29.8 UFA $6,540,000 WAS 2y$7M Charania
2 OKC Taj Gibson F 32 UFA $8,950,000 MIN 2y$28M Charania
2 TOR Serge Ibaka F-C 27.8 UFA $12,250,000 TOR 3y$65M Woj
2 TOR P.J. Tucker F 32.1 UFA $5,300,000 HOU 4y$32M Charania
1 GSW Andre Iguodala G-F 33.4 UFA $11,131,368 GSW 3y$48M Woj
1 UTA Joe Ingles F-G 29.7 RFA $2,250,000 UTA 4y$52M Amick
1 CHI Cristiano Felicio F-C 25 RFA $874,636 CHI 4y$32M Charania
1 ATL Jose Calderon G 35.7 UFA $8,100,905 CLE 1yMinimum Haynes
1 CHI Michael Carter-Williams G 25.7 RFA $3,183,526 CHA 1y$2.7M Goodman
1 BOS Amir Johnson F 30.1 UFA $12,000,000 PHI 1y$11M Woj
1 LAC J.J. Redick G 33 UFA $7,377,500 PHI 1y$23M Woj
1 GSW David West F 36.8 UFA $1,551,659 GSW 1yMinimum Aldridge
1 NYK Ron Baker G 24.2 RFA $543,471 NYK Unknown Ron Baker
1 SAC Langston Galloway G 25.5 UFA $5,200,000 DET 3y$21M Woj
1 HOU Nene Hilario F-C 34.8 UFA $2,898,000 HOU 3y$11M Woj
1 MIL Tony Snell G-F 25.6 RFA $2,368,327 MIL 4y$46M Woj
1 NOP Jrue Holiday G 27 UFA $11,286,518 NOP 5y$126M Woj
1 GSW Shaun Livingston G 31.8 UFA $5,782,450 GSW 3y$24M Haynes
1 IND Jeff Teague G 29 UFA $8,800,000 MIN 3y$57M Charania
1 SAS Patty Mills G 28.9 UFA $3,578,948 SAS 4y$50M Woj
1 GSW Stephen Curry G 29.3 UFA $12,112,359 GSW 5y$201M Woj
1 LAC Blake Griffin F 28.3 UFA $20,140,838 LAC 5y$173M Charania
0 Yahoo Adrian Wojnarowski G 52 UFA $ 2,000,000 ESPN


Day Old Team Player Pos Age Type 2016-17 Salary New Team Contract Source
25 Grand Rapids Drive Lorenzo Brown G 25.8 UFA Unknown TOR Two Way Murphy
25 Erie Bayhawks Anthony Brown G-F 24.7 UFA Unknown MIN Two Way Woj
21 Reno Bighorns Luis Montero G 24.3 UFA Unknown DET Two Way HoopsHype
21 AS Monaco Yakuba Ouattara G 25.5 UFA Unknown BKN Two Way Fonseca
20 Oklahoma City Blue Dakari Johnson C 21.8 Rights Unknown OKC 2yUnknown Charania
20 Brujos de Guayama Damien Wilkins G-F 37.6 UFA Unknown IND Unknown Scotto
20 Iowa Energy Matt Costello F 23.9 UFA Unknown SAS Two Way Lowe
20 Saski Basonia Shane Larkin G 24.8 UFA $900,000 BOS Unknown Pick
18 SAC Ty Lawson G 29.6 UFA $1,315,448 Shanxi Unknown Pick
16 PHI Sergio Rodriguez G 31.0 UFA $8,000,000 CSKA Moscow 3yUnknown Pick
14 Canton Charge Eric Moreland F 25.6 UFA Unknown DET Unknown Freep
13 Anadolu Efes Brandon Paul G 26.2 UFA Unknown SAS Unknown Pick
13 Bayern Munich Maxi Kleber F 25.5 UFA Unknown DAL Unknown MacMahon
13 Fenerbahçe Ekpe Udoh C 30.1 UFA Unknown UTA 2y$6.5M Charania
12 KK Mega Basket Rade Zagorac F 21.8 Rights Unknown MEM 3y$3M Pincus
12 Anadolu Efes Cedi Osman F 22.3 Rights Unknown CLE 3y$8.5M Sportando
11 Olympiacos Khem Birch F 24.7 UFA Unknown ORL Unknown Eurohoops
9 Windy City Bulls Alfonzo McKinnie F 24.8 UFA Unknown TOR 2yUnknown Murphy
8 Banvit Furkan Korkmaz G-F 19.9 Rights Unknown PHI 1st Round Scale Kennedy
7 Alba Berlin Malcolm Miller F 24.3 UFA Unknown TOR Unknown Murphy
6 Banmberg Darius Miller F 27.3 UFA Unknown NOP Unknown Pick
6 Fenerbahçe Bogdan Bogdanovic G 24.8 Rights $1,165,919 SAC 3y$27M Pick
6 CSKA Moscow Miloš Teodosić G 30.3 UFA $2,242,152 LAC 2y$12.3M Woj
4 Panathinaikos Mike James G 26.9 UFA Unknown PHX Unknown Eurohoops
2 Darussafaka Ante Žižić C 20.5 Rights Unknown BOS 1st Round Scale Celtics
1 China Zhou Qi 周琦 C 21.5 Rights HOU Unknown Woj

Trade Tracker

Date Team 1 Team 1 Receives Team 2 Team 2 Receives Team 3 Team 3 Receives Sources
6/19/2017 BOS Jayson Tatum (3rd) & 2018 or 2019 conditional 1st round pick PHI Markelle Fultz (1st) Stein
6/20/2017 LAL Brook Lopez & 2017 1st round pick (27th) - Kyle Kuzma BKN D'Angelo Russell & Timofey Mozgov Woj
6/20/2017 CHA Dwight Howard & 2017 2nd round pick (31st) - Traded to NOP ATL Miles Plumlee, Marco Belenelli, & 2017 2nd round pick (41st) - Tyler Dorsey Woj
6/21/2017 NOP 2017 2nd round pick (52th) - traded to IND WAS Tim Frazier Scotto
DURING DRAFT MIN Jimmy Butler & 2017 1st round pick (16th) - Justin Patton CHI Zach Lavine, Kris Dunn, & 2017 1st round pick (7th) - Lauri Markkanen KC Johnson
DURING DRAFT POR 2017 1st round pick (10th) - Zach Collins SAC 2 x 2017 1st round picks (15th, 20th) - Justin Jackson, Harry Giles Woj
DURING DRAFT UTA 2017 1st round pick (13th) - Donovan Mitchel DEN Trey Lyles & 2017 1st round pick (24th) - Tyler Lydon Woj
DURING DRAFT PHI 2017 1st round pick (25th) - Anžejs Pasečņiks ORL 2020 OKC 1st round pick & 2020 NYK or BKN's 2nd round pick Charania
DURING DRAFT UTA 2017 1st round pick (28th) - Tony Bradley LAL 2017 1st round pick (30th) - Josh Hart & 2017 2nd round pick (42nd) - Thomas Bryant Woj
DURING DRAFT NOP 2017 2nd round pick (31st) - Frank Jackson CHA Cash & 2017 2nd round pick (40th) - Dwayne Bacon
DURING DRAFT MEM 2017 2nd round pick (35th) - Ivan Rabb ORL BKN 2019 2nd round pick Fischer
DURING DRAFT LAC 2017 2nd round pick (39th) - Juwan Evans PHI Cash Charania
DURING DRAFT GSW 2017 2nd round pick (38th) - Jordan Bell CHI Cash ($3.5M) Woj
DURING DRAFT LAC 2017 2nd round pick (48th) - Sindarius Thornwell MIL Cash Charania
DURING DRAFT IND 2017 2nd round pick (52th) - Edmond Summer NOP Cash
6/28/2017 HOU Chris Paul LAC Patrick Beverley, Sam Dekkar, Lou Williams, 2018 1st round pick Discussion Thread
6/28/2017 HOU Tim Quarterman POR Cash Woj
6/28/2017 HOU Ryan Kelly ATL Cash Vivlamore
6/30/2017 UTA Ricky Rubio MIN OKC 2018 1st round Pick Checketts
6/30/2017 OKC Paul George IND Victor Oladipo, Domantas Sabonis Shelburne
7/5/2017 LAC Danilo Gallinari ATL Jamal Crawford, Diamond Stone, HOU 2018 1st round pick DEN 2019 2nd round pick, $20M trade exception Woj
7/7/2017 DET Avery Bradley, 2019 2nd round pick BOS Marcus Morris Woj
7/7/2017 MIA A.J. Hammons DAL Josh McRoberts, 2023 2nd round pick, cash Miami Heat
7/8/2017 BKN Demarre Carroll, 2018 first round pick, 2018 second round pick TOR Justin Hamilton Woj
7/9/2017 TOR C.J. Miles IND Cory Joseph Woj
7/25/2017 BKN Allen Crabbe POR Andrew Nicholson, $12M trade exception Woj

2017 Undrafted Free Agents

Date Player College/Team Pos Team Source
POST DRAFT Chris Boucher Oregon PF/C GSW Charania
POST DRAFT Cameron Oliver Nevada F HOU Haynes
POST DRAFT James Blackmon Jr. Indiana G PHI Charania
POST DRAFT Charles Cooke Dayton G MIN Haynes
POST DRAFT V.J. Beachem Notre Dame F MIN Aldridge
POST DRAFT Peter Jok Iowa G NOP Haynes
POST DRAFT Marcus Keene Central Michigan G WAS Haynes
POST DRAFT Melo Trimble Maryland G PHI Haynes
POST DRAFT Devin Robinson Florida F WAS Scotto
POST DRAFT P.J. Dozier South Carolina G LAL Haynes
POST DRAFT London Perrantes Virginia MIA Scotto
6/23/2017 Jamel Artis Pittsburgh F MIA Haynes
6/23/2017 Kennedy Meeks North Carolina F TOR Charania
6/23/2017 Kobi Simmons Arizona G MEM Woj
6/23/2017 Nigel Hayes Wisconsin F NYK madison.com
6/23/2017 Bronson Koenig Wisconsin G MIL madison.com
6/23/2017 George Lucas Alves de Paula Brazil G HOU Folha Sao Paolo
6/23/2017 Isaiah Hicks North Carolina G LAC Aldridge
6/23/2017 Luke Nelson UC Irvine G LAC Pick
6/23/2017 Zak Irvin Michigan G MIA Haynes
6/23/2017 Justin Robinson Monmouth G MIA Monmouth
6/23/2017 Derek Willis Kentucky F DET Haynes
6/23/2017 Luke Kornet Vanderbilt C NYK Jones
6/23/2017 Derrick Walton Jr. Michigan G ORL Quinn
6/23/2017 Jeremy Senglin Weber State G BKN Haynes
6/23/2017 Kamari Murphy Miami BKN Scotto
6/23/2017 Milton Doyle Loyola Chicago BKN Scotto
6/23/2017 Ben Moore SMU IND Pick
6/23/2017 L.J. Peak Georgetown F HOU Berman
6/23/2017 Erik McCree Louisiana Tech F HOU Berman
6/23/2017 Bryce Alford UCLA G GSW Alford
6/23/2017 Kris Jenkins Villanova G WAS Aldridge
6/23/2017 Isaac Humphries Kentucky F WAS Scotto
6/23/2017 Deonte Burton Iowa State MIN Fischer
6/23/2017 Isaiah Briscoe Kentucky G PHI Zagoria
6/23/2017 Jacob Wiley Eastern Washington F BKN Begley
6/23/2017 Antonius Cleveland SE Missouri State G POR Haynes
6/23/2017 Andrew White Syracuse G CLE Waters
6/23/2017 Jeremey Morgan Northern Iowa G GSW Southard
6/23/2017 Ismael Bako Belgium C DAL Pick
6/23/2017 JaCorey Williams Middle Tennessee State F GSW Scotto
6/25/2017 Johnathan Motley Baylor F DAL Charania
7/8/2017 Jalen Moore Utah State F MIL jsonline

2017 Restricted Free Agent Status

Team Player Pos Age 2016-17 Salary Status Source
WAS Otto Porter F 24.0 $5,893,981 BKN offered 4y$106 on 7/4, WAS matched Charania
CHI Nikola Mirotic F 26.4 $5,782,450
PHX Alex Len C 24.0 $4,823,621 QO Tendered Haller
DAL Nerlens Noel C-F 23.2 $4,384,490
SAC Ben McLemore G 24.4 $4,008,882 Declined Haynes
WAS Bojan Bogdanovic G-F 28.2 $3,730,653 Withdrawn Aldridge
DET Kentavious Caldwell-Pope G 24.3 $3,678,319 LAL signed 1y$18M Windhorst
WAS Trey Burke G 24.6 $3,386,598 Declined CSN Wizards
CHI Michael Carter-Williams G 25.7 $3,183,526 Declined Kaplan
BOS Kelly Olynyk C-F 26.2 $3,094,014 QO Tendered Himmelsbach
MIN Shabazz Muhammad F-G 24.6 $3,046,299
MIL Tony Snell G-F 25.6 $2,368,327 MIL signed 4y$46M Woj
DEN Mason Plumlee C-F 27.3 $2,328,530
ATL Tim Hardaway G 25.3 $2,281,605 NYK offered 4y$71M on 7/6 Woj
DET Reggie Bullock G-F 26.3 $2,255,644 DET signed 2y$5M Charania
UTA Joe Ingles F-G 29.7 $2,250,000 UTA signed 4y$52M Amick
OKC Andre Roberson G-F 25.5 $2,183,072 OKC signed 3y$30M Woj
CHI Joffrey Lauvergne C-F 25.7 $1,709,720 SAS signed Unknown Charania
MEM JaMychal Green F 27.0 $980,431
GSW James Michael McAdoo F 24.5 $980,431
ORL Damjan Rudez F 31.0 $980,431
HOU Bobby Brown G 32.7 $934,293 HOU signed 1yminimum Pick
CHI Cristiano Felicio F-C 25.0 $874,636 CHI signed 4y$32M Charania
PHX Alan Williams F-C 24.4 $874,636 QO Tendered Haller
SAS Jonathon Simmons G-F 27.8 $874,636 QO Tendered Young
CHA Christian Wood F 21.7 $874,636
NYK Ron Baker G 24.2 $543,471 NYK signed unknown Ron Baker

2017 PlayeTeam/Early Termination Option Status

Team Player Pos Age Type 2016-17 Salary Option Salary Status Source
GSW Kevin Durant F-G 28.7 Player $26,540,100 $27,734,406 OUT Haynes
DAL Dirk Nowitzki F 39.0 Team $25,000,000 $25,000,000 OUT Stein
CHI Dwyane Wade G 35.4 Player $23,200,000 $23,800,000 IN Goodwill
LAC Chris Paul G 32.1 ETO $22,868,828 $24,268,960 IN Woj
LAC Blake Griffin F 28.3 ETO $20,140,838 $21,373,950 OUT Woj
MIL Greg Monroe C-F 27.0 Player $17,100,000 $17,900,000 IN espn.com
UTA Gordon Hayward F-G 27.2 Player $16,073,140 $16,736,710 OUT
SAS Pau Gasol F-C 37.0 Player $15,500,000 $16,197,500 OUT Woj
SAC Rudy Gay F 30.8 Player $13,333,333 $14,263,566 OUT Keith Smith
DET Aron Baynes C 30.5 Player $6,500,000 $6,500,000 OUT Charania
MIL Spencer Hawes C-F 29.1 Player $6,348,759 $6,021,175 IN Woj
CHA Ramon Sessions G 31.2 Team $6,000,000 $6,270,000 OUT
MIA Josh McRoberts F 30.3 Player $5,782,450 $6,021,175 IN Lowe
LAL Nick Young G-F 32.1 Player $5,443,918 $5,668,667 OUT Turner
SAC Langston Galloway G 25.5 Player $5,200,000 $5,430,000 OUT Scotto
IND C.J. Miles G-F 30.2 Player $4,583,450 $0 OUT
IND Lavoy Allen F-C 28.4 Team $4,000,000 $4,300,000 OUT
BKN K.J. McDaniels G-F 24.4 Team $3,333,333 $3,333,334 OUT Charania
NOP Dante Cunningham F 30.2 Player $2,978,250 $3,106,500 OUT Haynes
LAC Luc Mbah a Moute F 30.8 Player $2,203,000 $2,302,135 OUT Haynes
SAS David Lee F 34.1 Player $1,551,659 $1,605,967 OUT Orsborn
PHI Robert Covington F 26.5 Team $1,015,696 $1,577,230 IN Pincus
OKC Jerami Grant F 23.3 Team $980,431 $1,524,305 IN Woj
DAL Yogi Ferrell G 24.1 Team $442,067 $0 IN MacMahon

2017 Free Agent List

  • UFA - Unrestricted Free Agent
  • RFA - Restricted Free Agent
  • ETO - Early Termination Option
  • BPM - Box Plus/Minus (basketball-reference)
  • VORP - Value Over Replacement Player (basketball-reference)
  • RPM - Real Plus/Minus (ESPN)
  • WINS - "RPM Wins" (ESPN)
  • RAPM - Regularized Adjusted Plus Minus (via Jeremias Engelmann)
Team Player Pos Age Type 16-17 Pay Pts Reb Ast BPM VORP RPM WINS RAPM
CLE Deron Williams G 33.0 UFA $14,759,626 11.0 2.3 5.6 -2.3 -0.1 -0.22 2.95 0.66
CLE Andrew Bogut C 32.6 UFA $11,269,251 2.9 8.1 1.8 -0.3 0.3 0.33 1.20 -1.11
PHI Tiago Splitter F-C 32.5 UFA $8,550,000 4.9 2.8 0.5 -5.0 -0.1 -1.28 0.09 -0.58
IND Rodney Stuckey G 31.2 UFA $7,000,000 7.2 2.2 2.2 -6.0 -0.7 -2.57 0.23 -0.38
GSW Matt Barnes F 37.3 UFA $6,508,351 7.1 5.2 2.6 -0.6 0.6 -1.27 2.07 -1.59
WAS Brandon Jennings G 27.7 UFA $6,037,318 7.1 2.4 4.9 -3.0 -0.4 -1.25 2.15 -0.52
CHA Ramon Sessions G 31.2 UFA $6,000,000 6.2 1.5 2.6 -4.8 -0.6 -3.05 0.04 -1.55
CHI Nikola Mirotic F 26.4 RFA $5,782,450 10.6 5.5 1.1 0.4 1.0 2.23 5.69 2.22
TOR Jared Sullinger F 25.3 UFA $5,628,000 3.4 2.5 0.3 -7.8 -0.2 -1.80 0.10 -1.77
MEM Tony Allen G-F 35.4 UFA $5,505,618 9.1 5.5 1.4 0.7 1.3 0.12 3.76 0.78
DEN Roy Hibbert C 30.5 UFA $5,000,000 4.6 3.2 0.4 -1.1 0.2 -0.40 1.21 -0.39
BKN Luis Scola F 37.1 UFA $5,000,000 5.1 3.9 1.0 -1.2 0.1 -1.09 0.62 -1.83
PHX Alex Len C 24.0 RFA $4,823,621 8.0 6.6 0.6 -1.8 0.1 -2.34 0.81 -4.24
DAL Nerlens Noel C-F 23.2 RFA $4,384,490 8.7 5.8 1.0 3.3 1.4 1.25 2.95 -0.24
IND Lavoy Allen F-C 28.4 UFA $4,000,000 2.9 3.6 0.9 -0.3 0.4 -3.47 -0.19 -2.11
ATL Kris Humphries F-C 32.4 UFA $4,000,000 4.6 3.7 0.5 -2.7 -0.1 -1.89 0.54 -2.04
MIN Jordan Hill F-C 29.9 UFA $3,911,380 1.7 2.0 0.0 -12.9 -0.1 -1.15 0.06 -0.21
MIN Brandon Rush G-F 32.0 UFA $3,500,000 4.2 2.1 1.0 -2.1 0.0 -3.86 -0.48 -0.44
CHI Anthony Morrow G 31.7 UFA $3,488,000 5.5 0.6 0.5 -4.3 -0.4 -2.12 0.46 -1.02
WAS Trey Burke G 24.6 RFA $3,386,598 5.0 0.8 1.8 -5.7 -0.7 -5.24 -0.92 -3.29
BKN K.J. McDaniels G-F 24.4 UFA $3,333,333 4.2 1.7 0.3 -4.1 -0.3 3.80 7.02 -0.90
MIN Shabazz Muhammad F-G 24.6 RFA $3,046,299 9.9 2.8 0.4 -4.4 -0.9 -3.75 -0.60 -1.09
NOP Dante Cunningham F 30.2 UFA $2,978,250 6.6 4.2 0.6 -0.5 0.6 -0.93 2.29 -0.22
IND Aaron Brooks G 32.4 UFA $2,700,000 5.0 1.1 1.9 -4.6 -0.6 -3.28 -0.09 -1.21
BKN Randy Foye G 33.7 UFA $2,500,000 5.2 2.2 2.0 -3.9 -0.6 -4.12 -0.85 -2.42
DEN Mason Plumlee C-F 27.3 RFA $2,328,530 10.4 7.5 3.5 2.6 2.5 0.93 5.60 0.24
MIL Michael Beasley F 28.4 UFA $2,181,388 9.4 3.4 0.9 -2.9 -0.2 -2.31 0.48 -1.83
MIN Adreian Payne F-C 26.3 UFA $2,022,240 3.5 1.8 0.4 -1.5 0.0 -0.33 0.24 -0.34
BOS James Young G-F 21.8 UFA $1,825,200 2.3 0.9 0.1 -3.1 -0.1 -2.16 0.14 -1.30
SAS David Lee F 34.1 UFA $1,551,659 7.3 5.6 1.6 3.2 1.9 1.12 3.98 2.28
LAC Brandon Bass F 32.1 UFA $1,551,659 5.6 2.5 0.4 -0.7 0.2 -2.65 0.17 -3.50
MIL Jason Terry G 39.8 UFA $1,551,659 4.1 1.4 1.3 -1.1 0.3 0.20 2.81 1.31
DET Beno Udrih G 35.0 UFA $1,551,659 5.8 1.5 3.4 -2.6 -0.1 -0.26 0.98 0.68
CLE James Jones F-G 36.7 UFA $1,551,659 2.8 0.8 0.3 -1.5 0.0 -2.18 0.23 -3.25
CLE Chris Andersen F-C 39.0 UFA $1,551,659 2.3 2.6 0.4 -0.9 0.0 -0.38 0.20 0.24
LAL Metta World Peace F 37.6 UFA $1,551,659 2.3 0.8 0.4 -6.6 -0.2 -2.08 0.11 -1.84
BOS Gerald Green G-F 31.4 UFA $1,410,598 5.6 1.8 0.7 -4.7 -0.4 -2.74 0.13 -0.90
NYK Sasha Vujacic G 33.3 UFA $1,410,598 3.0 1.4 1.2 -4.3 -0.2 -2.09 0.27 -0.64
WAS Marcus Thornton G 30.0 UFA $1,315,448 6.6 2.3 1.2 -3.2 -0.2 -4.95 -0.66 -4.26
LAC Alan Anderson G-F 34.7 UFA $1,315,448 2.9 0.8 0.4 -4.9 -0.2 -3.66 -0.10 -2.24
MIL Terrence Jones F 25.4 UFA $1,287,418 10.8 5.7 1.1 -1.3 0.2 -2.10 0.84 -0.77
MIA Luke Babbitt F 28.0 UFA $1,227,000 4.8 2.1 0.5 -1.8 0.1 0.60 2.50 0.06
ORL C.J. Wilcox G 26.5 UFA $1,209,680 1.0 0.5 0.5 -8.7 -0.2 2.35 5.48 -1.01
LAL Thomas Robinson F 26.3 UFA $1,050,961 5.0 4.6 0.6 -2.3 0.0 -2.34 0.28 -2.29
CHA Brian Roberts G 31.5 UFA $1,050,961 3.5 1.0 1.3 -5.9 -0.4 -3.69 -0.15 -1.49
GSW Ian Clark G 26.3 UFA $1,015,696 6.8 1.6 1.2 -2.0 0.0 -2.90 0.17 -0.90
UTA Jeff Withey C 27.3 UFA $1,015,696 2.9 2.4 0.1 1.5 0.4 -0.93 0.58 -0.95
DAL DeAndre Liggins G 29.2 UFA $1,015,696 2.5 1.7 0.9 -2.1 0.0 -2.37 0.37 -0.20
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GSW James Michael McAdoo F 24.5 RFA $980,431 2.8 1.7 0.3 -0.5 0.2 -2.08 0.31 -1.53
ORL Damjan Rudez F 31.0 RFA $980,431 1.8 0.6 0.4 -4.7 -0.2 -3.28 -0.03 -3.01
CHA Christian Wood F 21.7 RFA $874,636 2.7 2.2 0.2 -2.0 0.0 -1.09 0.13 0.10
CLE Jordan McRae G 26.2 UFA $874,636 4.4 1.1 0.5 -6.5 -0.4 -4.06 -0.23 -2.09
SAS Joel Anthony C 34.9 UFA $663,810 1.3 1.6 0.2 -0.6 0.0 -0.97 0.17 -1.45
NOP Donatas Motiejunas F-C 26.8 UFA $576,724 4.4 3.0 0.9 -3.1 -0.1 -3.25 -0.04 -2.71
CLE Dahntay Jones G 36.5 UFA $24,022 x x x -10.9 0.0 -2.06 0.01 -0.58
DEN Mike Miller G-F 37.4 UFA $3,500,000 1.4 1.9 1.1 -3.8 -0.1 -1.58 0.16 -0.90
NYK Marshall Plumlee C 25.0 UFA $543,471 1.9 2.4 0.5 -2.8 0.0 -1.10 0.22 -0.63
ORL C.J. Watson G 33.2 UFA $5,000,000 4.5 1.4 1.8 -3.6 -0.4 -3.05 0.05 -2.29
HOU Ryan Kelly F 26.3 UFA $705,013 1.6 1.1 0.5 -3.9 -0.1 -0.49 0.08 -0.19
IND Rakeem Christmas F 25.6 UFA $1,052,342 2.0 1.9 0.1 -4.3 -0.1 -1.70 0.20 -0.96
IND Monta Ellis G 31.7 UFA $10,770,000 8.5 2.8 3.2 -2.3 -0.2 -2.96 0.21 -1.29
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BOS Tyler Zeller F-C 27.5 UFA $8,000,000 3.5 2.4 0.8 -2.5 -0.1 -2.30 0.28 -1.51
PHX Leandro Barbosa G 34.6 UFA $4,000,000 6.3 1.6 1.2 -4.1 -0.5 -3.00 0.08 -0.16
POR Festus Ezili C 27.7 UFA $14,000,000 4.2 4.3 0.4 2.2 1.7 1.66 6.88 1.34
PHI Gerald Henderson G 29.6 UFA $9,000,000 9.2 2.6 1.6 -3.1 -0.5 -3.93 -0.87 -3.60
CHI Isaiah Canaan G 26.1 UFA $1,015,696 4.6 1.3 0.9 -3.4 -0.2 -4.12 -0.37 -2.58
NYK Maurice Ndour F 25.1 UFA $980,789 3.1 2.0 0.3 -3.8 -0.1 -2.31 0.07 -0.97
DET Darrun Hilliard G 24.2 UFA $874,060 3.3 0.8 0.8 -6.1 -0.4 -3.89 -0.18 -0.73
UTA Boris Diaw F 35.3 UFA $7,000,000 4.6 2.2 2.3 -2.9 -0.3 -3.08 0.03 -0.51
BOS Jordan Mickey F 23.0 UFA $1,223,653 1.5 1.4 0.3 -4.8 -0.1 -2.77 0.03 -2.09
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2017.04.29 02:17 portlane Death Notices for Friday, April 28 2017

Clark County (Columbian):
Anderson, Chris D., 53, Camas, died April 25, 2017. Cascadia Cremation & Burial Services, 360-213-2060. Anderson, Everett, 97, Vancouver, died April 23, 2017. Evergreen Staples Funeral Home, 360-693-3649. Garrow, Jill F., 72, Vancouver, died April 24, 2017. Evergreen Memorial Gardens Funeral Chapel, 360-892-6060. Hollingsworth, Linda E., 75, Camas, died April 27, 2017. Cascadia Cremation & Burial Services, 360-213-2060. Keesee, Patrick N., 58, Vancouver, died April 25, 2017. Evergreen Memorial Gardens Funeral Chapel, 360-892-6060. Kidwell, George C., 90, Vancouver, died April 25, 2017. Cascadia Cremation & Burial Services, 360-213-2060. Krout, Kathryn Rae, 65, Vancouver, died April 21, 2017. Evergreen Staples Funeral Home, 360-693-3649. Leeper, Sharon L., 71, Vancouver, died April 25, 2017. Cascadia Cremation & Burial Services, 360-213-2060. Momeny, Lyman H., 72, Vancouver, died April 25, 2017. Cascadia Cremation & Burial Services, 360-213-2060. Spaulding, Donald R., 59, Spanaway, died April 26, 2017. Cascadia Cremation & Burial Services, 360-213-2060. Sullivan, Greyson Lee, Vancouver, stillborn April 8, 2017. Brown’s Funeral Home, 360-834-3692. 
Portland (Oregonian):
Edith Margaret (Herron) Arnold
June 30, 1928 - April 5, 2017
Long-time Portland resident, Edith Margaret Arnold, age 88, died peacefully April 5, 2017 at The Quarry Senior Living in Vancouver, Wash. Edith was born in San Benito, Texas to A.E. and Mabel Herron.
She was raised in Washington and Idaho, graduating from Northwest Nazarene College in 1950, majoring in Home Economics, and minoring in Music. She earned her teaching credential at the University of Idaho in 1951 and that year was initiated into a National Home Economics honorary, Phi Upsilon Omicron.
Edith taught a year of home economics in Dayton, Wash., before moving to Portland where she worked for the Oregon Dairy Council in Public Relations and Nutrition Education and later as their Executive Director. In early 1959 Edith met Edward W. Arnold at a mutual friend's wedding rehearsal dinner, they married Sept. 10, 1960. They were married 51 years until Ed's passing in 2011, and raised two children together.
Edith was an excellent cook and homemaker and took great pride in caring for her husband and children. She created a beautiful home and entertained with grace. Volunteer hours were spent as an Art Museum guide, and various roles at their church. She loved every moment spent with her granddaughters, whom she and Ed saw weekly and attended many of their school recitals.
In 1988, Edith became a Real Estate Agent and worked for Coldwell Banker until her retirement in 2007.
Edith is survived by her children, Deborah Engel (Rick) of Vancouver, and Kenneth Arnold (Mary) of Woodburn; granddaughters, Emily and Sarah Porter; sister, Lois Moland. She was predeceased by her husband, Edward Arnold; her parents; brothers, Hubert and Don Herron; sisters, Marjorie Wordsworth, Ruth Cook and Raebecca Hite. A service will be held at 2 p.m., May 3, 2017 at St. Bartholomew Episcopal Church, 11265 S.W. Cabot Street, Beaverton OR 97005. In Lieu of flowers donations may be made to the St. Bartholomew Memorial Fund.
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Robert Matthew Bennett
Oct. 25, 1992 - March 12, 2017
Matthew was a brilliantly talented and loving person who excelled as an artist, writer, researcher who loved sharing his ideas with others. Matthew had a love for music, graphic novels, comic books, video games, and Star Wars. Matthew had a big heart and loved his family, he especially loved being an uncle. He will be greatly missed by all.
Matthew is survived by his grandparents, Joe and Nancy; parents, Kevin and Lisa; sisters, Ashley, Rhiannon, Marisa; and brothers, Brandon and Joshua.
A celebration of life will be held in his honor at 6 p.m., Thursday, May 4, 2017 at Fuse Studio Pdx, 3841 S.W. Hall Blvd., Beaverton, OR.
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Ghislaine 'Geri' Virginia Cech
Feb. 13, 1919 - April 10, 2017
Geri is survived by six of her children, Denny, Dwayne, Merrily, Mike, Mark and Brent. A celebration of life service will be held for Geri and her daughter, Danielle (see obit at
) from 11 a.m. - 1 p.m., May 13, 2017, at the Sherwood Elks, 22770 S.W. Elwert Rd., Sherwood, OR 97140. For full obituary, see
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Barbara Christensen
July 17, 1930 - April 21, 2017
Barbara Ann Christensen, beloved mother, grandma and great-grandma, passed away peacefully April 21, 2017.
A service will be held at 11 a.m., Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at St. Cyril's Catholic church in Wilsonville. A reception will follow. She was 86 years old.
Barbara was born July 17, 1930 in Portland, to William and Alvena Ross. She married Henry Jerome Christensen Sept. 19, 1959 and raised their family in Tualatin. They were married 56 years.
Barbara's life was filled with caring for her family. She enjoyed cooking, gardening, fishing, camping, playing games and most of all, taking care of her children and grandchildren. She will always be remembered for her kindness, gentle spirit, humor and love.
Barbara is survived by her daughter, Lynn; son-in-law, Jim; grandchildren, Nicole, Dylan, Lesley, Nathan, Mitchell, Lila; and great-granddaughter, Genevieve.
Barbara was preceded in death by her husband, Henry; son, Kevin; parents Alvena and William; sister, Marie; and brother, Max.
Memorial contributions may be sent to the American Parkinson's Disease Association.
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Patricia O'Neill Cushing (Walling)
March 6,1923 - April 26, 2017
Patricia Ann O'Neill was born March 6, 1923, to John and Mary O'Neill in Albion, Neb. The youngest of six children, she grew up in Albion and Fullerton, Neb. After high school Pat, as she was always known, attended Kearney State College for one year where she met "Cush" (see below). As World War II began she moved to Oregon with her parents.
Pat worked in shipping in Portland while corresponding with Army Air Force Lt. Willard "Cush" Cushing. After his return from 35 missions as a B-17 navigator, they were married in Portland on March 4, 1945. When Cush completed law school in 1952, they settled in McMinnville with their children Douglas, Kathleen and Thomas. Mark and Jim were born in McMinnville.
In the following decades Pat cared for the five children, managed the household and entertained often. She was a diligent volunteer at St. James Catholic Church and school, managing the Parish books for years. She helped bring Boys and Girls Aid to McMinnville, played a serious level of bridge and was accomplished in knitting, weaving, sewing, piano, oboe, cooking, baking and set a Nebraska State typing record in 1939 of 150 words per minute on a manual! Her hand-knit sweaters and caps, and her woven designs are treasures for family members. In 2001 she and Cush moved to Mary's Woods at Marylhurst in Lake Oswego. Willard passed away in 2003. In 2007 she married Walter Walling, who died in 2012.
Pat is survived by Doug and Judy of Lake Oswego, Kathleen and John Cooper of Eugene, Thomas and Margarita of New York City, Mark and Natalie of Knoxville and Scottsdale and Jim and Joyce of Laguna Beach; 14 grandchildren and 12 great-grandchildren, all of whom loved their "Gram Pat."
A Mass of Celebration and a reception will be held at Mary's Woods Chapel at 11:00 a.m. Friday, May 12, 2017. Remembrances in lieu of flowers may be sent to Mary's Woods, 17400 Holy Names Dr., Lake Oswego, OR 97034, Attn: Employee Scholarship Fund or the
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Norma (Gillard) Fossati
June 26, 1927 - April 26, 2017
We mourn the loss of Norma (Gillard) Fossati, who passed away peacefully April 26, 2017 after a short decline of her health.
A lifelong Oregonian, Mrs. Fossati grew up in Portland and lived many years in Milwaukie and Lake Oswego. She graduated from Franklin High School and attended the University of Oregon. For over 26 years Norma volunteered at the Rehabilitation Institute of Oregon (RIO) making many lifelong friends.
Norma married the love of her life, George Fossati, celebrating over 50 years of marriage and family life with devoted children Craig Fossati, Karen Fossati and Pam (Fossati) Foster.
Norma was affectionately known as "Mumsie" to her grandchildren, Dominic, Travis, Channing, Brock, Wyatt, Grant and great-grandson, Bennett. She maintained a keen and engaged interest in their lives to the days before her passing.
She will be missed by admiring friends and family who knew her for her kindness, commitment to neighbors and family and enduring humor and compassion.
There will be a family only graveside service in the future. Donations in the name of Norma Fossati may be made to:
Rehabilitation Institute of Oregon (RIO)
Legacy Good Samaritan Hospital
1015 N.W. 22nd Ave.
Portland, OR 97210
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Leonard Graves
July 7, 1974 - April 2, 2017
Nathaniel L. Graves was born to Dwayne Graves and Nancy Wheaton in Salem. He passed from injuries sustained in a fall.
Nate graduated from Lincoln High School class of 1993. He went on to earn a B.F.A. in Performing Arts from Boston's Emerson College in 1997. His sense of humor and generous spirit were appreciated by all who loved him.
There will be a celebration of life gathering from 2-5 p.m., May 21, 2017 at the North Star Ballroom, 635 N. Killingsworth Ct. Portland, OR 97217. In lieu of flowers please donate to
. Make sure to leave a message in the 'notes' section stating this donation is made in honor of Nathaniel Graves. You may view a video about the program at
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Mary Jane Eileen Long Groce
Nov. 13, 1920 - April 27, 2017
Mary Jane Groce passed away peacefully in her home on Thursday, April 27, 2017, at age 96 just two blocks away from where she was raised as a child. She was the descendent of Oregon pioneers and displayed that strong independent spirit her entire life, most of which was spent in and around Portland's Laurelhurst neighborhood. Born Nov. 13, 1920, to Marjory and George Long, she joyfully roamed the tree lined streets and undeveloped lots of Laurelhurst with her friends and later, explored the hills of the coast range when her father was forced to rent their newly constructed cottage during the Depression. The memories of the ramshackle shack her father constructed and his lifelong work for the Southern Pacific as an engineer in the tiny logging hamlet of Timber, Ore., were some of the fondest for she and her younger sister Nancy. She kept journals of the many colorful, hard-working folks there that she would never forget. As devout Catholics, her parents sacrificed to send her to Portland's Laurelhurst Grade School and Madeline High School after returning to Laurelhurst and she later attended Marylhurst college where she excelled in music. Her singing talents led her to radio appearances with "The Journal Juniors" where she met actress Jane Powell on one occasion. In 1941 she met her husband of 67 years, James Groce, who was serving in the US Army. Their first date was at Carmen's Restaurant in the Hollywood District. World War II separated the two until 1945, after which they settled down and raised five children in Laurelhurst after brief stays in other neighborhoods. Mary Jane was home again. Her children's memories of her include stories that rival that of episodes of I Love Lucy. Such things as dressing up as a nun with her lifelong friends Louise Sause and Sylvia Posedel, then going to a local tavern where one of her daughters boyfriends was performing that night, going under cover as an Avon lady to investigate a friends fiancée, and taking a "whoopie cushion" to work at Providence Medical Center where she was employed for many years. Like her father, she was stern with her children but loved them unconditionally, going as far as to give up her living room so they could practice there with their rock band much to the neighbors dismay, and ensuring that they had instruments as well. Most of her children continue enjoying music to this day because of that sacrifice. Later in life, she enjoyed acting in the "Jerry Greco" amateur video productions with her friends and family that can still be seen on local cable access. She is survived by her children, Linda Bayless of Belmont, Calif., Rita Coss, Jamie Groce, Gary Groce and Maria Blum all of Portland. Throughout her life, she did things "Her Way" as the Sinatra song goes which caused never a dull moment for her family, yet she was loved by all she touched. She will be missed greatly and never forgotten.
Service 1:00 p.m. Friday, May 5, 2017, All Saints Parish, 601 NE 39th Ave., Portland.
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Michael Francis Hakala
December 27, 1948 - March 18, 2017
Michael F. Hakala, age 68, died Saturday, March 18, 2017, at his home in Gresham, after a long battle with COPD and diabetes.
Mike was an OSP Trooper and motorcycle officer.
Mike is survived by his wife, Leanna; three children, Troy Hakala (Shayna), Jarred Hakala (Shannon), and Rian Hakala (Kristin). He also leaves behind seven grandchildren; four step grandchildren; and two great step grandsons. Mike is also survived by a sister, Barb (Hal) Hausinger; and brother-in-law, Rodger Phillips (Violet).
Celebration of life to be held in the summer..
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Beverly Joyce Hartman
Jan. 23, 1934 - April 25, 2017
Beverly was born in Cloquet, Minn. to John and Alice Bruneau.
Bev was a wife and mother, who loved to work in her flowers and her garden. She taught ceramics to a large group of local women for many years, which she truly enjoyed. She enjoyed going on trips and going out to dinner and shopping.
She is survived by her husband, Lauren; son, Randy and wife, Susan; grandsons, Tyrel and wife, Tina, Daniel and wife, Stephanie; great-grandchildren, Tanner, Trenton, Haylie and Chloe; her brother, John Bruneau and wife, Jan; her sister, Patricia Davis and husband, Al; as well as many niece's and nephews.
She was preceded in death by her parents; and her sister, Yvonne.
No date for a memorial service is set at this time.
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Evelyn Mirsky Hirsch
Nov. 23, 1929 - April 7, 2017
Evelyn, known as Evy, was born in the Bronx, N.Y. She lived in New York, Florida and Oregon. She was a bookkeeper, plumbing associate, realty broker, artist, writer and an enthusiastic story teller. Evy loved beautiful things; art, music, nature, her children, grandchildren and her great-grandchildren. Her effervescent personality and radiant smile will be missed by all her knew her.
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Thomas B. Hood
Sept. 21, 1935 - April 4, 2017
Tom was born Sept. 21, 1935 in Newland, N.C. to James G. and Margaret P. Love-Hood. He passed away peacefully the morning of April 4, 2017 after a courageous battle with cancer.
Tom was a caring father, very loyal friend and brother, and an adoring grandfather, "Papa."
Tom is survived by his two sisters, Peggy Buck and Betty Owens; daughter, Judy George; son, Greg Hood; grandchildren, Taylor Saul, Ryan Hood, Thomas Hood, Anna Hood, Michael McLean and Lauren McLean; and several nieces and nephews. He was predeceased by his daughter, Sharon McLean; and his brother, James G. Hood and will be greatly missed by his many friends, clients and family.
In earlier and healthier times, he enjoyed tennis, golf, boating and bird hunting.
Tom's family traveled from North Carolina to Oregon so their father could work in the shipyards. Tom grew up in Gresham and graduated from Gresham High School. After serving in the National Guard, he joined John Hancock Financial and launched a successful career with the company that spanned more than 60 years. As the General Agent of the Portland Agency, he had a reputation as a mentor to many young sales associates for years to come. He was also able to form relationships with his clients and staff that lasted well beyond his career.
Tom's success and achievements in the insurance business were because of his hard work and determination. He was, and will continue to be, a shining example of what you can achieve with dedication.
The family would like to invite all friends to join them for a "Celebration of Life" to be held at a later date.
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Carla Jean
April 9, 1974 - April 12, 2017
Carla Jean Hinrichs, 43, died April 12, 2017 at Providence St. Vincent's Hospital in Portland.
A Celebration of Life will be held May 6, 2017 at The Falls Event Center Chapel in McMinnville.
Please see Attrell's Funeral Chapels for more information
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In Loving Memory
Margaret Ann Kaady Joseph
June 11, 1931 - April 25, 2017
Margaret Ann Kaady Joseph, 85, born June 11, 1931, in San Francisco, passed away peacefully April 25, 2017, in Walla Walla with her family and devoted husband of 63 years, Gabe Joseph by her side.
She is survived by her husband of 63 years, Gabe Joseph; daughters, AnnRené Joseph (Lee Bell) of Woodinville, Wash., Margot Joseph Haddad (Edward) of Seven Hills, Ohio, and Susan Joseph Nielsen (Scott) of Spokane, Wash.; son, Gabriel Joseph III (Karen) of Centerville, Va; brothers, Victor Kaady (Marlee) of Milwaukie, Jack Kaady of Vancouver; and sister, Katherine Kaady Saba (Tom) of Norcross, Ga.; eight grandchildren; eight great-grandchildren; 12 nieces and nephews; and 14 great nieces and nephews.
A celebration of Margaret's life will be held at 1 p.m., June 10, 2017, at St. Paul's Episcopal Church, 323 Catherine Street, Walla Walla, with a brief private columbarium service, followed by a mercy dinner for all those attending the service held in the adjoining church parish hall.
Memorial contributions may be made to St. Paul's Episcopal Church In Memory of Margaret Joseph, 323 Catherine Street, Walla Walla, WA 99362, Walla Walla Community Hospice, 1067 E. Isaacs, Walla Walla, WA 99362 or Providence St. Mary Regional Cancer Center.
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Ralph Kenneth Jubb Jr.
Dec. 27, 1921 - April 22, 2017
Ken Jubb was born Dec. 27, 1921 in Des Moines, Iowa to Ralph K. Jubb and Irene (Zenor) Jubb. The family moved to Portland where Ken attended Vestul Grade School and graduated from Benson High. He enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1942 and was honorably discharged in 1945. During his early service Ken was a rifle range instructor at Camp Pendleton where he was awarded numerous citations for his expertise. Toward the end of his service, he was shipped out to Hawaii awaiting orders for the assault on Japan. Ken's family is thankful that the war came to an end before that order came. In 1944, Ken married Virginia Sparks, "the girl next door", and the following year they welcomed daughter, Judy Ann. The family settled in Portland where, in 1952, son, Ralph K. Jubb III was born and the family was complete. Ken began his career in the roofing industry with Pabco, Bird & Sons Roofing. Ken was well respected as a top salesman in that industry, winning many awards and friends along the way. He retired from Bird but continued with a new career as a professional wedding and portrait photographer. Ken was a lifelong Mason (1948) and Shriner (1952) and was a great supporter of Judy's and Ralph's involvement in Job's Daughters and DeMolay, acting as Grand Guardian for Job's Daughters and the DeMolay Cross of Honor. Ken was also the director of the award winning Bethel #9 Drill Team. He and Virginia traveled extensively with these organizations. Over the years Ken acted as the photographer for the Shrine organization and particularly loved his time spent at the
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. Ken was honored to be named Photographer Emeritus. Ken became an active member of the award-winning Al Kader Oriental Band continuing to keep the beat as a drummer right up until his passing, April 22, 2017. Virginia Jubb was born July 28, 1925 in Hood River to Kenneth R. Sparks and Lillian (McDonald) Sparks. The family moved to Portland where Virginia attended school, but she spent many summers at the family ranch in Antelope, the area where the family settled as pioneer Clarnos and McDonalds. Virginia was focused on family and close friends. She was a 4'11' and all energy. She loved to laugh, and the worst thing she could say about anyone was that they were "naughty". She was proud of and loved her children but, truth be told, she loved her grandchildren unconditionally. Virginia loved fashion and enjoyed working in sales of lady's tailored clothing for many years. She was a life-long member of Eastern Star and supported Ken in his Masonic and Shrine organizations, most recently the Oriental Band. Ken and Virginia were predeceased by daughter, Judy Van Alstyne. They are survived by son, Ralph (Janelle); son-in-law, Richard Van Alstyne; five grandchildren, Mark, Laurie (Lori) and Jennifer Van Alstyne, R. Kenneth Jubb IV (Michelle), Spencer Jubb; and two great-grandchildren, Jordan Wade and Joshua Jubb. Virginia is also survived by her brother, Michael Sparks (Christie); nephews, Ryan and Aaron Sparks; sister-in-law, Betty Sparks; and niece, Julia Sparks. A funeral for Virginia was held Dec. 2, 2016. The memorial service for Ken will be held at 2 p.m., Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at the Shrine Center, 25100 S.W. Parkway Ave, Wilsonville, OR. In lieu of flowers, contributions may be made to the "Ladder of Smiles" a charity for the benefit of the
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Kathryn Ann
July 29, 1949 - April 11, 2017
Kathy died peacefully at home April 11, 2017.
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Barbara C.
(Schneider) Minden
Aug. 4, 1919 - April 20, 2017
Barbara C. Minden, 97, died April 20, 2017, at Laurelhurst Village in Portland, where she had been a resident for 14 years.
Barbara was a devoted wife and mother. She and her husband, Leo, were active members of St. Peter's Catholic Church.
Barbara is survived by her three sons, Steven of Portland, James of Portland and Gregory of Soap Lake, Wash.; two daughters, Jeanne Porten of Vancouver and Anne Minden of Winthrop, Wash.; six grandchildren; and five great-grandchildren.
Mass of Christian Burial will be offered at 11 a.m., May 1, 2017, in the chapel at Laurelhurst Village. Laurelhurst Village is located at 3060 S.E. Stark, Portland, OR 97214. Burial will be in Willamette National Cemetery where she will join her husband Leo John Minden who preceded her in death in 1991.
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Corrinne Beverly
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Jan. 7, 1929 - Sept. 23, 2016
Corrinne Beverly (Williams) Repp, passed away peacefully at home Sept. 23, 2016. She was surrounded by her family.
Corrinne was a devoted wife, mother, and grandmother.
She leaves her husband of 67 years, Richard Milton Repp; son, Richard Repp; daughters, Lynnette (Repp) Cobb, Barbara (Repp) Reed and her husband, Michael Reed, and Kathleen Repp; five grandchildren; nine great-grandchildren; and one great-great-grandchild. She is forever loved and greatly missed.
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Douglas Montgomery
Dec. 8, 1935 - April 13, 2017
Douglas M. Richardson, "Monty" to his folks and siblings, "Doug" to his wife, son, and colleagues, passed of natural causes. He was among family.
There is so much to say about Doug's rich life - Health physicist, craftsman, husband, father, music lover, outdoorsman - please visit his memorial page at
Doug's ashes will be interred at Willamette National Cemetery, in a private moment for close family. His celebration will be this summer at an upcoming family reunion.
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Gladys 'Ernie' Ernilie Burgess Storrs
July 17, 1924 - April 16, 2017
Ernie Storrs passed away unexpectedly early Easter Sunday morning.
Born July 17, 1924 in Tacoma, she grew up in Puyallup, Wash.
Ernie worked at Boeing Field during WWII. She met and dated James Storrs until he was shipped to the South Pacific. They married upon his return and settled in Garden Home. Ernie was very active with Home Extension (she was recently presented with her 50 year pin), and was an excellent hand quilter. She was active in her church, and took great enjoyment in attending various functions there.
She was preceded in death by her husband, James Storrs, and is survived by her daughter, Lori Snyder (Kevan); and son, Brian Storrs.
A Celebration of Life is being held at 1 p.m., Sunday, April 30, 2017, at the Hillsdale Community Church, 6948 S.W. Capitol Hwy., Portland, OR 97219.
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Mary Ann Svetich
April 26, 1924 - April 14, 2017
Mary Ann Louise Svetich, 92, died of natural causes peacefully at her home surrounded by her family. Born Mary Ann Mehalovich to Croatian immigrants, Prudence (Politeo) and John Mehalovich, she joined siblings Barbara and Anton.
The family lived in S.E. Portland and Mary Ann attended Commerce High School (now Cleveland High School), where she learned bookkeeping skills that led her to a job at Bedell's Department Store in downtown Portland. She was proud to be an independent working woman, but when the tall, handsome Steve Svetich spun her around the dance floor, her life took a different turn. They were married in 1952 and family, home and community became her focus. For decades she was active in Catholic Daughters of America, St. Ignatius Catholic Church, Croatian Fraternal Union of America and UFCW Local 555 Retiree Club. Being idle was not in her nature. She was an avid gardener, stitcher and seamstress, devoted Trail Blazer fan, and loved to cook and entertain.
Mary Ann is survived by her four children, Matthew, George (Terri), Donald (Amy) Svetich, and Marilyn (Neal) Kuhnhausen; as well as five grandchildren, David, Lisa and Sara Kuhnhausen and Carly and Lukas Svetich; and her sister, Barbara Lechtenberg. Mary Ann was preceded in death by her husband of 54 years, Steve Svetich, who passed in November 2006.
A funeral Mass in her honor will be held at 10 a.m., Thursday, May 4, 2017 at St. Ignatius Catholic Church, Portland, with a reception to follow in the parish hall.
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Marguerite Thompson
June 3, 1918 - April 21, 2017
Marguerite was born in Portland to David and Rose Hatfield.
She graduated from Jefferson High School and worked for Meier & Frank for over 20 years. She was a lifelong Portland resident and spent the last 75 years living in the house she and her husband, "Doc", purchased new in 1942.
Marguerite was preceded in death by her husband, "Doc" Thompson; and her son, David Thompson. She is survived by her daughter, Marcia Thompson; and grandsons, Charlie and Benjamin Thompson. She was privately laid to rest in Skyline Memorial Gardens.
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Molly Tulin
May 18, 1927 - April 27, 2017
Molly Tulin passed away April, 27, 2017 in Portland, the place where she made her home after living most of her life in Connecticut. She was born May 18, 1927 in Hartford and went on to graduate from Smith College in Northampton, Mass.
Molly was married to the late Dr. Sidney S. Norwitz. After his death in 1965, Molly went back to school earning a teaching certificate and a degree in Social work. She retired from the Connecticut Department of Human Services after many years as a child placement specialist; was a proud member of her union, now SEIU Local 2001; and a lifelong Roosevelt Democrat.
She was a fan of live theater and worldwide travel. At the age of 77 she moved to Portland to help raise her youngest grandchild, Lily. Within a few years, her other granddaughter, Sefra came to live in Portland as well. Molly was a life-long learner, writing poetry and studying at Portland State University into her 80's. She became an early member of Shir Tikvah, a small Jewish congregation.
She is survived by two sons, Jeffrey Norwitz of Richmond, Ky. and Len Norwitz of Portland; four grandchildren; Sefra Gemma, Sidney Norwitz, Shale Norwitz, and Lily Beeson-Norwitz; and four great-grandchildren.
Memories can be shared at 10:30 a.m., Saturday morning, May 13, 2017 at the Shir Tikvah Congregation, 7550 N.E. Irving Street, Portland, OR. Remembrances may be sent in Molly Tulin's honor to: Shir Tikvah's Social Justice Fund; 1631 N.E. Broadway, #314 - Portland, OR 97232-1425
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Margaret Louise Walker
Oct. 6, 1927 - April 15, 2017
Beloved wife, mom, friend and piano teacher.
Preceded in death by husband, Keith. Survived by children, Tom Walker and Juli Johnson; four grandchildren; and three great-grandchildren.
A memorial service at 11 a.m., Saturday, May 6, 2017 at St. Peter and Paul Episcopal Church, 247 S.E. 82nd Ave., Portland, 97215.
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Evelyn Jewell Westphal
Sept 23, 1919 - April 17, 2017
Evelyn Jewell Westphal, 97, passed away peacefully in her home near Portland, the morning of April 17, 2017.
Evelyn was born to Oral and Lucy Stewart on a farm on the plains of Northeastern Colorado, Sept. 23, 1919, and graduated from Sterling High School in 1938. Shortly after graduation, she moved with her family to Limon, Colo., where she met a handsome Standard Oil agent, Virgil Westphal. The ensuing marriage lasted 52 years and brought the joy of raising four rambunctious boys. She was a woman of deep faith and unconditional love who especially enjoyed being "Grammie." Evelyn was a member of the United Methodist Church, Beta Sigma Phi Sorority, and served as a volunteer for many organizations including Fort Morgan Community Hospital and SpringRidge at Charbonneau.
Evelyn was preceded in death by her husband, Virgil; stepson, Bruce; and brother, Bill. She is survived by her sons, Dennis, Bill and daughter-in-law, Pat Reser, and Buddy and daughter-in-law, Lin; her grandchildren, Mark, Christi, Chad, Amy, Cody; Scott and Chris; Teresa; Connie, Vicki, Brad, and Steve; and her great-grandchildren, Sami, Tatie, ZuZu, Grail, and William; Jaden and Jace; Kellen and Kaden. In addition, she is survived by her sisters, Betty and Bobbi; and her "adopted" daughter, Leni Siker.
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Ralph Warren Younger
June 17, 1944 - April 7, 2017
Ralph Warren Younger, 72, of Portland, beloved husband, father, brother, and friend passed away peacefully at home, surrounded by his family April 7, 2017. Ralph was born June 17, 1944 in Medford, to Millard V. and Ruth B. Younger. He graduated from Medford High School in 1962, and the University of Oregon in 1967 with a degree in Real Estate Appraisal and Finance.
Ralph is survived by his wife of 33 years, Carolyn M. Younger; his son and daughter, Evan and Annie Younger from a previous marriage to Nancy R. Younger; stepchildren, Greg and Shannon Nichols; and sisters, Marlys A. Hurd and Karen J. Younger. He remembered fondly his youth spent in the Rogue Valley helping on his father's pear orchards, and his college days in Eugene as a member of the Chi Phi fraternity. He spent his career in Portland as a Real Estate Appraiser, starting Younger and Neu with partner Roger Neu in 1970 and then Younger and Associates in 1982. He taught appraisal classes at the community college and became a highly regarded expert witness in court cases involving real estate value.
Ralph and Carolyn made their home in the N.E. Portland Dolph Park neighborhood that he loved. When a new superstore threatened to impact the surrounding neighborhoods he spearheaded an effort to bring neighbors together to stop the project. Ralph loved meeting all of his neighbors and made many life long friends. An avid golfer and tennis player he belonged to Riverside Golf Club and Irvington Tennis Club. Although he loved to travel the world, visiting many countries, he cherished being home with friends, family and his golden retrievers. He was a lifelong Oregon Ducks Football fan and season ticket holder and you could always spot him proudly wearing his Duck's gear.
Ralph's life will be remembered at a Celebration of Life to be held May 7, 2017. The family suggests any remembrances be made to the
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2017.04.25 02:24 ThexJwubbz Never thought i'd share this, but fuck it here goes: My own NBA league i started in 2009 and have been evolving ever since.

Basically, in 2009, i started thinking about the NBA my own way. Inserting my own players, even new teams, to make things interesting and to think of all of the narratives that could come of my own imagination. At the surface, it sounds simple, but it really is more than that.
It started out with players i already knew in 2009. Then, i added my own players to teams, and in no time, pretty much the entire league was imaginary players. I kept track of all of this ok a sheet of paper, later turned into a spreadsheet, later turned into a personal roster on NBA2k. And it didn't stop at new players and new teams either. I thought of new rules from the new commissioner, hazards like an NBA lockout and what prevented it, and even thought of historical players to fill into the universe. Eventually, i came up with this brief history of the league, dating back to 1951 but records starting at the year 2000.
League History:
2000: SMVP: Xavier Stone DPOY: Kendrick Harding ROTY: Belle Parker 6MOTY: Shaun Brown SCT: Larry Khantaka FC1: Golden State Warriors FC2: Orlando Magic FCH: Orlando Magic(4-2) FMVP: Penny Hardaway MOPP: Eddie Blackwater
2001: SMVP: Charles Barkley DPOY: Charles Barkley ROTY: Allen Iverson h 6MOTY: Samuel Sampson SCT: Dirk Nowitzki FC1: Philadelphia 76ers FC2: Dallas Mavericks FCH: Philadelphia 76ers(4-0) FMVP: Charles Barkley MOPP: Tobias Harris
2002: SMVP: Dan Miller DPOY: Tobias Harris ROTY: Dan Miller 6MOTY: Terry Porter SCT: Hector Heiigiare FC1: Philadelphia 76ers FC2: Golden State Warriors FCH: Philadelphia 76ers(4-3) FMVP: Dirk Nowitzki MOPP: Charles Barkley
2003: SMVP: Dan Miller DPOY: Tobias Harris ROTY: Christian Tyler 6MOTY: Christian Tyler SCT: Dan Miller FC1: Philadelphia 76ers FC2: San Antonio Spurs FCH: San Antonio Spurs(4-1) FMVP: Dan Miller MOPP: Dan Miller
2004: SMVP: Dan Miller DPOY: Dan Miller ROTY: LeBron James 6MOTY: Marquisse Jackson SCT: Dan Miller FC1: New Jersey Nets FC2: San Antonio Spurs FCH: San Antonio Spurs(4-0) FMVP: Dan Miller MOPP: Dan Miller
2005: SMVP: Dan Miller DPOY: Darius Miles/Shaquille O'Neal ROTY: Darius Miles 6MOTY: Mario Treggete SCT: Hector Heiigiare FC1: Orlando Magic FC2: San Antonio Spurs FCH: Orlando Magic(4-3) FMVP: Shaquille O'Neal MOPP: Dan Miller
2006: SMVP: Dan Miller DPOY: Shaquille O'Neal ROTY: Dwight Mason 6MOTY: Dwight Mason SCT: Dan Miller FC1: Detroit Pistons FC2: San Antonio Spurs FCH: San Antonio Spurs(4-2) FMVP: Dan Miller MOPP: Dan Miller
2007: SMVP: Marcus G'raz DPOY: Marcus G'Raz ROTY: Marcus G'Raz 6MOTY: Danny Green SCT: Dan Miller FC1: Cleveland Cavaliers FC2: Los Angeles Lakers FCH: Cleveland Cavaliers(4-3) FMVP: LeBron James MOPP: LeBron James
2008: SMVP: Kobe Bryant DPOY: Marcus G'Raz ROTY: Shaun Davis 6MOTY: Derek Fisher MIP: HWMAC SCT: Kobe Bryant FC1: New York Knicks FC2: San Antonio Spurs FCH: San Antonio Spurs(4-2) FMVP: Dan Miller MOPP: Kobe Bryant
2009: SMVP: Dan Miller DPOY: LeBron James ROTY: Oman Redd 6MOTY: Al Jefferson MIP: Nasir Jones SCT: Kobe Bryant FC1: Cleveland Cavaliers FC2: Los Angeles Lakers FCH: Los Angeles Lakers(4-3) FMVP: Kevin James MOPP: LeBron James
2010: SMVP: LeBron James DPOY: Shaquille O'Neal ROTY: Rajon Rondo 6MOTY: Gerald Wallace MIP: Paul Pierce SCT: Dan Miller FC1: Boston Celtics FC2: San Antonio Spurs FCH: San Antonio Spurs(4-2) FMVP: Dan Miller MOPP: Kevin Garnett
2011: SMVP: Dan Miller DPOY: Malik Wells ROTY: James Harden 6MOTY: Serge Ibaka MIP: Luol Deng SCT: Dan Miller FC1: Miami Heat FC2: San Antonio Spurs FCH: Miami Heat(4-3) FMVP: Dwyane Wade MOPP: Dan Miller
2012: SMVP: LeBron James DPOY: Dwight Howard ROTY: Mario Chalmers 6MOTY: Tracy Morgan MIP: Jeff Green SCT: Kevin Durant FC1: Miami Heat FC2: Oklahoma City Thunder FCH: OKC Thunder(4-2) FMVP: James Harden MOPP: LeBron James
2013: SMVP: LeBron James DPOY: Malik Wells ROTY: Derrick Rose 6MOTY: Christian Tyler MIP: Javier Escuella SCT: Antawn Jameison FC1: Milwaukee Bucks FC2: Toronto Raptors FCH: Toronto Raptors(4-2) FMVP: Dwight Mason MOPP: Dwight Mason
2014: SMVP: Oman Redd DPOY: George Thabeet ROTY: George Thabeet 6MOTY: John Wall MIP: Davonte Marshall SCT: Dan Miller FC1: Miami Heat FC2: San Antonio Spurs FCH: San Antonio Spurs(4-1) FMVP: Dan Miller MOPP: Tim Duncan
2015: SMVP: George Thabeet DPOY: George Thabeet ROTY: PJ Hill 6MOTY: Steph Bynum MIP: Daniel Hayes SCT: Dan Miller FC1: Washington Wizards FC2: San Antonio Spurs FCH: Washington Wizards(4-0) FMVP: Andrew Bynum MOPP: Dan Miller
2016: SMVP: Oman Redd DPOY: Daniel Hayes ROTY: Dikembe Dikombo 6MOTY: JJ Barea MIP: Davonte Marshall SCT: Dikembe Dikombo FC1: Milwaukee Bucks FC2: Dallas Mavericks FCH: Dallas Mavericks(4-0) FMVP: Dikembe Dikombo MOPP: Dirk Nowitzki
2017: SMVP: Oman Redd DPOY: Tim Duncan ROTY: Abdul Blackmon 6MOTY: Dwayne Morrison MIP: Goran Dragic SCT: LeBron James FC1: Miami Heat FC2: San Antonio Spurs FCH: Miami Heat(4-2) FMVP: Dwyane Wade MOPP: LeBron James
2018: SMVP: Dan Miller DPOY: Drake Alexander ROTY: Abel Abey 6MOTY: Dwayne Morrison MIP: Tom Cables SCT: Davonte Marshall FC1: New York Knicks FC2: Sacramento Kings FCH: Sacramento Kings(4-3) FMVP: Daniel Hayes MOPP: Nasir Jones
2019: SMVP: Davonte Marshall DPOY: Daniel Hayes ROTY: Trou Hudson 6MOTY: Tom Cables MIP: Jonas Valunciunas SCT: Davonte Marshall(Mike Miller) FC1: Memphis Grizzlies FC2: Sacramento Kings FCH: Sacramento Kings(4-0) FMVP: Davonte Marshall MOPP: Davonte Marshall
2020: SMVP: Dan Miller DPOY: Dikembe Dikombo ROTY: Shaun Graham 6MOTY: Joseph Young MIP: Anthony Davis SCT: Dan Miller FC1: New York Knicks FC2: San Antonio Spurs FCH: San Antonio Spurs(4-2) FMVP: Tony Parker MOPP: Dan Miller
2021: SMVP: Dikembe Dikombo DPOY: Anthony Davis ROTY: Hollis Gordon 6MOTY: Jason Williams MIP: Eric Bledsoe SCT: Davonte Marshall FC1: Atlanta Hawks FC2: Phoenix Suns FCH: Phoenix Suns(4-2) FMVP: Jimmy Butler MOPP: Aiden Babbie
2022: SMVP: Dikembe Dikombo DPOY: Shaun Graham ROTY: Jurok Dalshim 6MOTY: Isiah Thomas MIP: Bradley Beal SCT: Davonte Marshall(Damian Lillard FC1: Philadelphia 76ers FC2: Sacramento Kings FCH: Sacramento Kings(4-2) FMVP: Davonte Marshall MOPP: Damien Lillard(G. Thabeet)
2023: SMVP: Davonte Marshall DPOY: Daniel Hayes ROTY: Spencer Graves 6MOTY: Michael-Carter Williams MIP: Randall Taylor SCT: Damien Lillard FC1: Washington Wizards FC2: Sacramento Kings FCH: Sacramento Kings(4-1) FMVP: Davonte Marshall MOPP: Davonte Marshall
2024: SMVP: Davonte Marshall DPOY: Jurok Dalshim ROTY: Chris Mason 6MOTY: Aaron Carter MIP: Donta Melvin COTY: Erik Spoelstra(HOU) SCT: Damien Lillard FC1: Philadelphia 76ers(4-2) FC2: Sacramento Kings FMVP: LaMarcus Aldridge MOPP: DeMar Derozen
2025: SMVP: Davonte Marshall DPOY: Mark Eaton ROTY: Mark Eaton 6MOTY: Gordon Hayward MIP: Hollis Thompson COTY: Gregg Popovich(SAS) SCT: David Williams FC1: Philadelphia 76ers FC2: Sacramento Kings(4-3) MVP: Daniel Hayes MOPP: Davonte Marshall
2026: SMVP: Randall Taylor DPOY: Greg Oden ROTY: Lamar Houston 6MOTY: James Harden MIP: Nic Batum COTY: Michael Jefferson SCT: Troy Hudson FC1: Orlando Magic FC2: Dallas Mavericks(4-2) FMVP: Dikembe Dikombo MOPP: Nic Batum
2027: SMVP: Davonte Marshall DPOY: Randall Taylor ROTY: Larry Brown Jr. 6MOTY: Eric Bledsoe MIP: Harold Harkless COTY: Dwayne Casey SCT: Davonte Marshall FC1: Sacramento Kings FC2: Philadelphia 76ers(4-3) FMVP: Alverson Carter MOPP: Davonte Marshall
2028: SMVP: Davonte Marshall DPOY: Mark Eaton ROTY: Da'Sean Drew II 6MOTY: Jeff Green MIP: Matt Glennon COTY: Monty Williams SCT: Davonte Marshall FC1: Sacramento Kings FC2: Miami Heat(4-1) FMVP: Dikembe Dikombo MOPP: Matt Glennon
2029: SMVP: Dikembe Dikombo DPOY: Mark Eaton ROTY: John Price 6MOTY: Jeff Green MIP: Cameron Payne COTY: Mike Malone SCT: Davonte Marshall FC1: Houston Rockets(4-1) FC2: Minnesota Timberwolves FMVP: Yao Lin MOPP: Jahlil Okafor
2030: SMVP: Davonte Marshall DPOY: Greg Oden ROTY: DZZ 6MOTY: Michael Carter-Eilliams MIP: Giannis Antetokounmpo COTY: Logan Schmidt SCT: Davonte Marshall FC1: Denver Nuggets(3-1) FC2: New York Knicks FMVP: Benji Wilson MOPP: Davonte Marshall
2031: SMVP: Jahlil Okafor DPOY: David Williams ROTY: Shaq Thomas 6MOTY: Ronald Roberts MIP: Francis Erikson COTY: Nate McMillan SCT: Davonte Marshall FC1: Denver Nuggets FC2: Miami Heat(4-1) FMVP: Davonte Marshall MOPP: Davonte Marshall
2032: SMVP: Yao Lin DPOY: Isiah Thurmond ROTY: Keyon Dooling 6MOTY: Gordon Hayward MIP: Shaq Thomas COTY: Luke Ridnour SCT: Anthony Parker FC1: Golden State Warriors FC2: Brooklyn Nets(4-2) FMVP: Da'Sean Drew MOPP: Shaq Thomas
2033: SMVP: Shaq Thomas DPOY: Darius Dikombo ROTY: Darius Dikombo 6MOTY: Amiin Bell MIP: Joe CzaShaq Thomas COTY: Brad Stevens FC1: Denver Nuggets(4-3) FC2: Boston Celtics FMVP: Emmanuel Mudiay MOPP: Devin Booker
2034***: SMVP: Yao Lin DPOY: Darius Kanter ROTY: Moole Harrison 6MOTY: Davante Marshall MIP: Royce Young III COTY: Eric Spoelstra
As you can see, there is a mix of real and fake. Here are some of the records some players in this world hold.
Single Game Records:
Total Points: 108, Dan Miller 2003 Field Goals Made: 44, Dan Miller 2003 Three Pointers Made: 24, Dan Miller 2003 Free Throws Made: 41, James Harden 2014 Rebounds: 45, Shaquille O'Neal 2004 Assists: 34, Quincy Acy 1987, Chris Paul 2015 Blocks: 20, George Thabeet 2016 Steals: 15, Bob Olynik 1999 Minutes: 61, Joe Taylor 1968 Turnovers: 15, Bill Kroll 1970
Single Season Records:
Total Points: 4,135, Dan Miller 2004 Field Goals Made: 1,555 S. Friedlander 1969 Three Pointers Made: 512, Dan Miller 2003 Free Throws Made: 1007, Yao Ming 2010 Rebounds: 1,705, George Thabeet 2016 Assists: 1414, Aiden Babbie 2021 Blocks: 992, George Thabeet 2016 Steals: 442, Quincy Acy 1985 Minutes: 3,813, Joe Taylor 1968 Turnovers: 577, Allen Iverson 2004
Single Game Playoff Records:
Total Points: 118, Dan Miller 2003 Field Goals Made: 49, Dan Miller, 2003 Three Pointers Made: 27, Dan Miller 2003 Free Throws Made: 24, Danny Haycee 1988 Rebounds: 38, George Thabeet 2016 Assists: 28, Steve Wilkman 1989 Blocks: 18, Daniel Hayes 2018 Steals: 14, Alverson Carter 2021 Minutes: 62, LeBron James 2010 Turnovers: 22, Russell Westbrook 2012
Career Records:
Total Points: 47,821, Dan Miller Field Goals Made: 22,899, Dan Miller Three Pointers Made: 10,001, Dan Miller Free Throws Made: 15,720, Quincy Acy Rebounds: 17,056, Shaquille O'Neal Assists: 14,442, Aiden Babbie Blocks: 7,990, George Thabeet Steals:
Here are some individual records by some of the greatest players i have ever thought up.
1st: Dan Miller: SMVP: 8 Appearences: 11 Titles: 7 SC Titles: 10 FMVP: 6 MOPP: 6 Points: 47,821(1st) Assists: 11,972(21st) Rebounds: 8,978(107th) Steals: 5,142(15th) Blocks: 705(593rd) Turnovers: 2,579(1st PPO)
2nd: Davante Marshall SMVP: 7 Appearences: 8 Titles: 6 SC Titles: 10 FMVP: 4 MOPP: 6 Points: 44,244 (2nd) Assists: 9,560 (32nd) Rebounds: 15,141 (40th) Steals: 3,250 (50th) Blocks: 1,101 (82nd) Turnovers: 5,890 (18th PPO)
3rd: LeBron James SMVP: 2 Appearences: 6 Titles: 3 SC Titles: 3 FMVP: 2 MOPP: 3 Points: 39,790 (7th) Assists: 14,300 (9th) Rebounds: 17,945 (11th) Steals: 3,795 (21st) Blocks: 1,799 (44th) Turnovers: 4,280 (10th PPO)
Here is the list of team managers around the league.
Team management (GM's)
Hawks: Rick Addlemen Celtics: Sparty Chino Nets: Byron King SuperSonics: Michael Thompson Bulls: Eugene Pettit Cavaliers: (Ed Foster) David Griffin Pistons: Mark Davidson Panthers: Colt Smith Magic: Paul Westphal 76ers: George Halll Wizards: Tom Brokaw, Dwight Mason Warriors: Jacob Brokaw, Joe Lacob Nuggets: Paul King Mavericks: Joe Colangelo Timberwolves: Blake Jancious Pelicans: Radjo Manuguilius Rockets: Eli Winston Clippers: Doc Rivers Lakers: Jerry West Grizzlie: Dominic Percival Thunder: Sam Presti Suns: Joe Sloan Trailblazers: Stan Van Gundy Sacramento: Tyrone Corbin Spurs: Jack Nicholas Jazz: Jonathan Greene
I could post the full roster of all of the current players (2034 season) but it would take up too much space.
My favorite part about this is that every single player i have ever thought up comes with a backstory or a memory that actually happened when i was either shooting hoops or playing basketball irl. Players even come and go, which sucks because sometimes i get attached to certain players (like characters in a world).
If you still don't really get the point of all this, i understand. Maybe this paraphrased quote from Spike Lee will help: "Sports is the greatest form of entertainment on the planet, because it can't be scripted. It's all real"
Anyways, that's it. I know it isn't a conventional worldbuild per se but it's mine and it's been going for nearly 8 years.
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